We pay him and he has a contract with us. Hold him to it if he wont sign a new one. We aint running a charity here.

We didn´t with Cesc and he had 4 years left on his contract.

He needs to tell the club what he wants to do before he joins the Dutch squad. If he can´t, the club should just tell him that he is staying next season. If he has ANY love for the club, as he says he has, then he won´t put us through what we had last summer. He needs to make up his mind.

flobaba wrote:

Why are we being so selfish here?

It's not his fault we're not good enough, and we have shown no ambition for anything other than the prize over the years.

If we persist with our penny pinching ways, then I won't hold it against him if he left.

He has to mind his own career and his own legacy. He is fast approaching 30, and is one of the premier strikers in Europe, and has basically nothing to show for it except a poTy title. Now, that's fucked up.

Fuck his legacy.

Who the fuck was he when he was injured for 6 months every year for half a decade?

He still owes us despite 1 and bit good years. If not, then fuck him.

Alfonso wrote:

Fuck his legacy.

Who the fuck was he when he was injured for 6 months every year for half a decade?

He still owes us despite 1 and bit good years. If not, then fuck him.

Ah, someone who knows the score. Good.

Quite right. We care about Arsenal and Arsenal only.

We need Robin to stay. Couldn't care less if Robin could end up telling his grandkids some better stories by moving elsewhere.

I'm sure the rumour-mongers have their watches sychronised. Where's a phone-hacker when you need one?

Oh yeah ...

Alfonso wrote:
flobaba wrote:

Why are we being so selfish here?

It's not his fault we're not good enough, and we have shown no ambition for anything other than the prize over the years.

If we persist with our penny pinching ways, then I won't hold it against him if he left.

He has to mind his own career and his own legacy. He is fast approaching 30, and is one of the premier strikers in Europe, and has basically nothing to show for it except a poTy title. Now, that's fucked up.

Fuck his legacy.

Who the fuck was he when he was injured for 6 months every year for half a decade?

He still owes us despite 1 and bit good years. If not, then fuck him.

I agree.

And as for his "legacy" who's going to give a fuck about him in 10 years time if he leaves us and wins a title with Real, Barca, City, etc next season? No one, he'll be a footnote at any big club now.

If a player at Robins age with his ability really wants a legacy then he should stay because he's the main man here. If we win something while he's still here he'll get the credit, he'll be remembered. Even if we win nothing he'd be treated as a legend forever at Arsenal.

So apparently City would like to sign him for 25mil and 250k a week while we're ready to give him 130k a week.

Now we all know what's probably on the table (that we won't be signing more than one more player, the money and all that), what would you personally do?

They're pretty much ready to give him two times more and have a big chance to win the title once again next year. Must be pretty hard for the player, can't say I'll blame him either way this ends.

We can't pay him £250k so if that's what he wants to sign, we all better enjoy his last season with us.

We should do a straight swap for any two of Edin Dzeko, Adam Johnson & Micah Richards.

I think we would/will offer RVP an awful lot to stay. Not as much as City obviously, but the overall deal on the table will be pretty massive. Talk of a £5million signing bonus and big loyalty payments etc, plus a competitive weekly wage.

If he goes to City then he's just another player, but if he leaves the one thing that will piss me off is the captain merry go round.

We make Henry captain, he leaves

Gallas- left

Fabregas-left

Now Van Persie might be our captain for all of one season.

It's pathetic how we can't hold on to our supposed leaders.

Maybe that's the reason why captains are normally defenders who are more likely to stay at one club.

I just want the club to have a recognized leader who isn't linked with a transfer away every single summer. These transfer sagas involving our captains help no one

That's what happens when you create a team with such large quality gaps.

TomasCR wrote:

So apparently City would like to sign him for 25mil and 250k a week while we're ready to give him 130k a week.

Now we all know what's probably on the table (that we won't be signing more than one more player, the money and all that), what would you personally do?

I'd sell him in a heartbeat if he doesn't feel that £130K is sufficient enough. The way the issue has been portrayed is that he's waiting to sign until he's had reassurances from the club that there will be money invested in the squad this summer. If it's just about money being invested in him we're screwed. We don't have a chance to match what the other top clubs in England would offer him.

Personally I think Robin will be content with what we're offering. Getting Podolski in before the window has even opened was a statement of intent too.

I think the biggest bargaining tool that we have is that van Persie is captain of the club and can, to some extent, call the shots. Maybe I'm just clutching at straws but that seems like something he enjoys whereas at any other club he'll have to start all over again. Particularly at Madrid or Barcelona.

Let's face it, that's all we have. If footballers are motivated by money and trophies, we've got no chance.

City are the only real worry I think RVP knows that a big injury at real or barca and he'll be replaced quick enough. His national teammates will remind him of that.

I seem to remember ManU benching players that are stalling on contracts. We offered Theo a new deal about a year ago. I don't think any player would sit on the bench for 2 years without there value seriously dropping I know its hard ball but we cant have this scenario continuing. Wenger shows them great loyalty but to be fair its backfiring a bit at the moment. Their is no incentive for players to sign before they only have a year left.

Could stomach him going to City a lot more easily than him going to United...

Anyway, Mirror and a couple of other places reporting that it didn't go too well yesterday.

Those reports seem pretty insubstantial, but it would hardly be surprising if he rejected our first offer.

Whatever happened, the papers were only ever going to run with one story. As if they know anything.

Suppose it's possible Robin's agents might have leaked something.