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Dowman

Qwiss

Clrnc great insights, cheers. Dowman's Dad was on twitter a couple of weeks ago shooting down any speculation about him leaving saying "we are Arsenal".

lorddulaarsenal

That’s so good to hear.

Anyways I think the club is elevating itself to a new standing within Europe. We shouldn’t struggle to hold on to our stars

Rohit

Thanks Clrnc for the insights. Good to see posts from you again.

Something clicked at our academy. I would love to understand what happened. It obviously is the work put in for over more than a decade, the rewards of which are being reaped now but it will be interesting to know nevertheless the process that brought us here.

RocktheCasbah

Rohit yep. It's one of the reasons I've found the "we don't buy the next big thing" complaint a bit weird. Why do you need to buy them when the academy keeps pumping 'em out? Saka, MLS, Nwaneri and Dowman could save Arsenal hundreds of millions.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

If there's something higher than Heaven I haven't found it!

daredevil

He looks more natural as a wide player than Nwaneri does who looks better suited as a box crashing 8. Max has the ball carry speed over distance that Ethan and Jack lacked to really flourish in a wide position.

It's quite incredible that we have such incredible understudies to both Saka and Ode. If he continues to perform as he's done so far in pre-season, he will definitely play in the Carling Cup next season. It will be hard to argue against it.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

daredevil not sure Ethan is '8' material. This is why an Eze is so crucial.

daredevil

flobaba

I don't doubt that this is how the plays. It's when fatigue, niggles and the need to turn up consistently is when players tend to drop off and how they respond to that will determine if they can continue to excel in spite of that.

Gurgen

This is a serious talent. Astounding how he breezes past grown men at the age of 15.

lorddulaarsenal

Gurgen it’s the momentum which he has following each touch of the ball - a sight to behold.

He’s a big kid already but plays in a lovely upright way.

Got a shot on him too. Fabulous

lorddulaarsenal

Imagine him in 10 years time when he’s about to enter his prime!

Sicario2

lorddulaarsenal fingers crossed but many said the same about Michael Owen.

lorddulaarsenal

Sicario2 he was always going to decline when he lost that youthful pace. Was too small not to

Lukazan

Don't tend to get excited by youth players but there is definitely something very special looking about this one for sure.

MistaT

Getting the Kaka vibes more and more

Gazza M

haven't been this excited about an academy product since wilshere. saka, ESR and nwaneri were eye-catching too, but there's something else going on with dowman. there's a grace and intuitiveness about his play that separates him from other talents ive seen. hopefully he sees plenty of cup minutes

Burnwinter

flobaba For whatever reason Nwaneri has lost some of that fearlessness

Nwaneri is already being judged by the standards of a player not a prospect.

USArsenal

Burnwinter

Well, to be fair, im sure he wanted to be (and is now being) paid like a player, and not as a prospect. So i guess we could start treating him like a player, even if he's 18. I know, unfair, but he's a member of the first team now.

Burnwinter

USArsenal I'm totally on board with it, I'm just saying that there comes a moment where our judgements of a youth star go from "How good could this kid be?" and "I can't believe those bastards tackled him as if he were a full grown man" … to "Eye-catching but he's given it away again" and "Is this kid actually going to win us this match?"

It's to Nwaneri's credit he's already in that latter category, Dowman is catching up fast.

Asterix

Yep, Max and Ethan are still kids. Who knows, Ethan might have a whole season where he feels a bit underwhelming, and we won't know why. Could still be his body filling out, him maturing or whatever. They're both kids. Let's hope they're both still with us in 5 years and playing great football.

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