Just build an AI model on Pierluigi Collina and be done with it. Expand the semi automated technology to include all decisions and make it very binary what is and isn't a rule breach. Remove all subjectivity and interpretation out of the game and apply the letter of the law on all occasions.

Claudius there was a brief moment a couple of seasons ago where PGMOL would apologise but they ended up making an apology every other week. So they’ve doubled down instead.

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You can’t bullshit a bullshitter. Interesting timing here post Oliver gate. I’ve never seen a bunch of weak humans as worse as these in my life. Wasn’t Coote pictured with Thai prossies? Hahahaha

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    Coombs check the article I just posted for the image I saw that gives Oliver cover. VAR on the other hand has no excuse.

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    In emergency break glass and release the coming out story. In full crisis management mode now, think we can’t see past their shit.

    [edit]Seen people say wouldn’t be surprising if they’ve forced him to come out to deflect attention, wouldn’t put anything past them.

      JazzG I'm not convinced that there is a driver behind those stories,I think it's clear the PGMOL don't seem like they plan to rescind and would be leaving it to the review panel. When do we put our appeal in or have we already done it?

      Claudius seen one just like it over the weekend. Absolutely nothing given, not even a protest. Commentators said nothing. Just got on with it.

      Sicario2 - Tier 1 really piling it on strong for the sympathy angle now for these poor refs

        IBL it also appears that those threats preceded our game. They are related to a Liverpool game. Which I am inclined to believe because Liverpool fans are radicalised. They once closed down the most popular American soccer podcast because the hosts dared to suggest the fans bore partial responsibility for Hillsborough. Fans threatened to kill everyone. This was 15 years ago.
        PGMOL are just a little mafia. I'm impressed that they got Sky to pull down their images and are controlling narrative. Incredibly political and powerful. Men with black whistles who make 100,000 a year. Insane when you think about it. Fucking PL dog being wagged all over the show.

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        We've appealed the red card.

        Friends in the media are still trying their hardest to control the narrative. A lot of old school media struggling with social media in that respect, they can't control the messaging any more.

        Just remember, all they had to do was just say they got it wrong and they would look into this and overturn the red card. Instead they've chosen to go down this path, the rot run deeps.

        there's a few things going on here which show how people are not moving forward with technology. referees have always made mistakes. that's okay.
        but the bigger thing is we have VAR and we are not using it properly in england. we are using it to rubber stamp decisions instead of giving the referee an extra set of eyes and leverage.
        then there is the media issue. 10 years ago it was easier to control narrative with newspapers and tv. but ideas are more democratized with the web.

        I said it in the other thread, lets see how this shakes out. It could be either swept under the rug, or it can cause a major overhaul. When every player, coach, pundit and many ex-referees say that it was never a red card in a million years (and wasnt even the worst tackle in that game), doubling down on it was not a good idea. Good for MLS and the club though. Glad to see he will be available for the next 3 games.

          USArsenal you can’t have a child traumatized like this. I’m glad he can stand up tall knowing he isn’t at fault.

          They usually want to cheat us against Manchester City. Remember Gabriel, Kovacic, Trossard. We could go on. Wonder what they’ll cook up. Next Kai Havertz handball will be deemed deliberate and a red card offense.

            We need a whistleblower, on of their own to expose them. Otherwise they'll continue to do shit

            I'm not inclined to go down the systematically corrupt road, although these last few days have not been a good look for the PGMOL.

            But I do think Michael Oliver has given us enough dodgy red cards that we can now say he is at the very least unconsciously biased against us. The stats are stark and I think the MLS dismissal is a textbook example of this unconscious bias.

            He was behind the incident and so did not have a great view of it, so he guessed and gave himself no time to think about the decision (you'd think removing a player would require at least a degree of thought), he reacted emotionally and not logically.

            Darren England's application of the VAR process is the thing that concerns me, although I'm sure that when we hear the audio, it will all be very plausible. Especially given the still image @flobaba referred to previously.

            I just can't see how he can have justified a decision, with all the images available to him, that almost to a man, the entire football world has been utterly shocked by.

            The speed with which the appeal was upheld seems pretty telling, but I don't know if that's standard.