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Classic deflection. Frankly I even doubt this is the most abuse he’s got considering we actually won the game
PGMOL
Sicario2 - Tier 1 that's just deflection. Refs are abused by idiots every week.
Sicario2 - Tier 1 Unless ppl are going to his house not sure how he’s getting threats? He has zero social media
Must be from the rest of his family. They probably think he's a useless cunt too.
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Even the Arsenal haters agree with us don’t understand what is going on.
I just don't get why they're circling the wagons around this decision.
Knowing our luck the FA will fine Arsenal FC for failing to control it's fans on social media.
It will be really interesting if the FA panel overturn the decision after PGMOL have doubled down on it. Puts PGMOL in a difficult place if the footballing world and then the FA’s Independent Regulatory Commission find Oliver’s decision to be wrong. Someone get Webb on tv and documenting his view before the appeal goes in!
No red card and to add insult to injury Martinez goes on to score the winner.
IBL please don't give them any ideas...
CPM Because they're corrupt as all get out.
Ok, that tweet has really triggered me.
Though the level of injustice is obviously not the same, that statement from PGMOL is like something you'd get from a police union after one of their officers are recorded murdering someone. It's all about diverting attention to make themselves the victim.
It's no surprise Howard Webb was a part of South Yorkshire Police, one of the most corrupt, unprincipled and incompetent police forces in the country for the last 50 years or so.
CPM I just don't get why they're circling the wagons around this decision.
There's a fair bit at stake for these guys. It's being shown time and time again there's a big quality and skill deficit in English refereeing. Meanwhile PGMOL has managed to tightly wedge itself into the Premier League media landscape.
The leaked Coote video spoke volumes with its jealousy: these top flight referees are very aware they're the only people who get near the pitch on Premier League match days who aren't multi-millionaires.
From the rest of the sport's vantage point, there's no need for PGMOL to be continued in its current form or under current leadership. For fans there seems very little reason to think Howard Webb can run a better refereeing body than your local publican.
It adds up to a paranoid and vulnerable organisation desperate to weld itself to an established power base, and broker favours in return for protection. Whether explicit or otherwise, PGMOL has been doing just that. They're accordingly defensive about the status quo from the pitch to the boardroom.
I’d even forgotten that this is the season where Saliba conceded a penalty for fairly contesting a header.
Sky Sports are deleting loads of videos referencing this, something is going on behind the scenes.
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It's such a bad decision, even Dermot Gallagher has said it should have been a yellow card.
Even ex-refs struggling to justify it.
But adding about how toxic it has become, you know what else is toxic? When football clubs who are there fighting for championships against oil rich clubs get robbed of points by fucking refs who want to be the centre of attention. Arteta has to deal with shit from the media and our own fans as a result, I don't see anyone running a sympathy campaigns for him!
Do you think this MLS sending off will be net positive or net negative for us in regards to future ref decisions?
Surely ref’s will think twice after this whole drama with Oliver.
Lol, that's very naive of you to think that Sicario.
They are not held accountable by anyone. It will happen again, no doubt.
The FA has to have someone independent review the ref's performances and shit decisions like these need to be punished by demoting to the lower leagues/match bans for the officials and new (foreign if needed?) refs need to be brought in to referee the games.
They can cry about online hate as much as they want, but if this goes on like it has, someone will eventually go full Luigi on these refs.
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You'd hope so but they seem to hold us in contempt and seem to think of themselves as being above the law so I wonder how long that would last. Behind closed doors I hope Arsenal are talking to them about this and reminding them that if they make a big deal about this, it could be potentially very damaging for them.
the referees are behaving like someone who is not used to being criticized or questioned. like police might do when they've beaten up another defenseless black guy. they close ranks and find fault in the protest. BLM is a radical movement. the whole culture around PGMOL needs to change. they need to become much more peripheral in the game, and see themselves as an enabler, not an authority
Was nice to see one coach and Arteta immediately shepherd MLS away from the fourth official to protect him. Hopefully he’s not traumatised
Claudius I think the references to Howard Webb and his connection to the South Yorkshire police force are quite interesting in this regard. They're probably the most infamous force in the land.
Calling in favours from mates in the media, Holt showing as usual what a bellend he is
Just build an AI model on Pierluigi Collina and be done with it. Expand the semi automated technology to include all decisions and make it very binary what is and isn't a rule breach. Remove all subjectivity and interpretation out of the game and apply the letter of the law on all occasions.
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You can’t bullshit a bullshitter. Interesting timing here post Oliver gate. I’ve never seen a bunch of weak humans as worse as these in my life. Wasn’t Coote pictured with Thai prossies? Hahahaha
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In emergency break glass and release the coming out story. In full crisis management mode now, think we can’t see past their shit.
[edit]Seen people say wouldn’t be surprising if they’ve forced him to come out to deflect attention, wouldn’t put anything past them.
Sicario2 - Tier 1 I'm never optimistic when it comes to reffing and Arsenal.
Sicario2 - Tier 1 really piling it on strong for the sympathy angle now for these poor refs
IBL it also appears that those threats preceded our game. They are related to a Liverpool game. Which I am inclined to believe because Liverpool fans are radicalised. They once closed down the most popular American soccer podcast because the hosts dared to suggest the fans bore partial responsibility for Hillsborough. Fans threatened to kill everyone. This was 15 years ago.
PGMOL are just a little mafia. I'm impressed that they got Sky to pull down their images and are controlling narrative. Incredibly political and powerful. Men with black whistles who make 100,000 a year. Insane when you think about it. Fucking PL dog being wagged all over the show.