Another angle of the Alvarez penalty.

It's a very marginal call? There's no open and shut video evidence for it I've seen. People are just posting videos and photos like the one above and saying there's "clearly" a double kick, making claims about spin and trajectory and so on. VAR should make the footage and systems they used for the decision public.

    Burnwinter VAR should make the footage and systems they used for the decision public.

    Ah never mind. It was published and it's actually visible here.

        Qwiss

        Carlo is a perfect example of how managers are defined by the players at their disposal.

        You also so see great managers peak and fall and that always without exception correlates with shitter teams and players. We will see if now with Pep unless they bag some stars in the summer.

          HomeSteak imagine the joy you're gonna be feeling come the end of the match. You lucky, lucky thing.

            Burnwinter

            Thank you. This is literally the ONLY angle where one can see the actual contact. All the others i have seen were not definitive in any way. Now i can see why it was called back. Annoyingly so, but 'letter of the law' and all that.

                USArsenal I think I'd seen at least six angles of it before that one myself. But now I've seen it ...

                  The way to separate pros from slugs like us is to see how guys like Aguero and Mbappe immediately knew it was a violation. Mbappe was at the halfway line complaining to the ref as soon as that kick was taken. Aguerro spotted it on a livestream.

                  Don Pacifico

                  Without the refereeing headlines, the game would have been forgotten in a second. Now you've had engagement on it for days.

                    QuincyAbeyie Make the player retake it if he scores, and count it as a miss if he misses.

                    I think a retake is fair. If the keeper breaks the rules during a penalty it isn't just awarded as goal, its retaken. Same should apply to the taker.

                        Qwiss goals can only be awarded if they’re actually scored. Ball needs to cross the line. That is one of the few truths in the game. Hence the retake if goalie jumps early.

                        This is different from striker mis-hitting a ball. He’s fucked up. Tough luck for him. Get boots with better studs.

                            Claudius all you are doing is telling me the current rule which we wall know. We are talking about changing the rule to make it fairer.

                                Qwiss I’m saying it’s fair. The point of the rule is so the goalie focuses on one point of contact. If you loosen it, what degrees of freedom do you allow the attacker?

                                    Claudius if he slips like Alvarez did then he should be allowed to retake it. Its not like he was trying to cheat. There is no extra freedom, just not punishing people for what was more likely a pitch issue than anything else.

                                      Letter of the law.

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                                      Coombs Have to say I prefer this too. I don't think they should make penalties any easier to execute, they're already 0.8–0.9 xG or a straight out goal if you've got a Toney on side.

                                          Burnwinter it's sport. It's all about precision, execution, not fucking up...I don't care for all this talk of intent and "what is he supposed to do" logic. Way I see it is the whole thing is backward these days. Administratively, we are concerned with precision, and sportingly, we are all wishy wishy. Flip it.