Liverpool are more exciting to watch, it's true. Then again, so are Tottenham.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert well Diaz has 7 goals. Saka has 5 and Martinelli has 4, Trossard has 3. Meanwhile Salah has 15. That's the real difference.

It's amazing that we've actively pursued replicating the tactics of the team that has won the last 4 consecutive titles, but fans would rather we were more like the team that has only won one.

No, they would rather we were more like the team that has only won one than like the one who has won zero.

Claudius

Scored more consistently and in a league where the get 3 points for a win that's more important then beating a Sheffield United a ton in one match

Qwiss fair enough. I thought Saka had more than that

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Saka has plenty of assists.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert yeah we spread the goals pretty well compared to Liverpool. They have just 3 more than us overall but rely really heavily on Salah. Its why I think they are fucked without him.

Unfortunately we now get to find out how fucked we are without Saka. Who knows maybe not relying on him will cause us to spread it around more and be less predicable and right side focussed.

I think saying we emulate City is a bit of shallow analysis really. You may as well be calling Arteta "lego Pep" or whatever other derogatory things people say about him being Peps assistant. Arteta has plenty of his own ideas and I don't think we could even emulate City if he wanted to without their resources and rule breaking.

awooga83 Scored more consistently

The difference between allowed 0 / scored 0 is +2.

Liverpool were a good distance behind us on points last season don't forget. Did onlookers think they were more efficient than us at securing three points in this league then? For a lot of 2024 we'd won pretty much every away match we'd played.

Some of us are getting carried away. Liverpool have Salah firing and they're having a fortunate run this season. They needed an 83rd minute penalty to see off Southampton, they're not that good.

daredevil We finished ahead of them in the last two season and very well would have done the same this season had we not suffered so many injuries and refereeing decisions. It happens.

You can't have it that we are behind them because of injuries but claim we were ahead of them based on tactics when they were hurt just as badly with injuries those years.

Anyway why are people talking about Liverpool over a multi year period anyway? Slot has just joined this year, their tactics the previous couple of seasons don't really matter.

Liverpool under Slott doesn't play all too different from us.
Both teams:

• invert their full backs. Average positions that the full backs play for both teams are roughly the same (unlike Citeh, who have a maniacally high line which no one seems to point out). Robertson is their go-to inverted full back.
• have CB good on the ball.
• Use CMs to progress play from the middle third to the opposition by either carrying a short distance or finding line-breaking passes.
• prioritise retaining posession.
• Play with fairly high lines.
• Love to play crosses to the far post (though we've done this less nowadays which is part of our problem).

Tactically maybe the only real difference is that they have a tendency to pack the midfield, doing a 2-3-2-3 Instead of our 3-2-2-3 in the buildup though both end up with a 2-3-5 in attack. We end up having the same weaknesses too.

The biggest difference right now for us is being clinical in attack and our attacking intensity. They take waaaay more shots from open play, we tend to fiddle faddle. OTOH we are definitely better at set pieces.