You guys. lol. Somehow we have set a record for number of times putting 5 goals past opponents in a calendar year . Haven’t seen a single one of you reflect on that. Just the usual this or that team is so much better than us offensively. As a fan base we are the ultimate grass is greener collective.

    Yeah, give it a rest lads.

    May be I am just bitter that Liverpool have been good this season, but I just don't find this team special. They may win multiple trophies and yet I personally won't consider them amongst the very best teams.

      So Salah is on 15 goals and 11 assists before Christmas, thats just insane

        HomeSteak and under this manager we're now closer than we have been since the last time we won the league.

        To hear some of you talk, it's like we have Pep's coneman in charge - and as Claudius says there is no acknowledgement of the distance we've travelled in a relatively short time, or how good we actually are.

            Claudius that stat doesn't really mean anything to me calendar year stuff is irrelevant so I don't see why I would attach much to it. That's not what wins you titles.

              Claudius We are always finding ways to improve the team.

              If not we won't be wishlisting players. Take the good of what people does and get rid of the bad that we do

              Anyway lets stop with the calendar year bullshit. I lost count of how many times Wenger won the league in calendar years

                HomeSteak he is legendary. I’m pissed off that uefa and others have completely ignored him in all their awards and teams of the year. It’s heinous

                  Rohit Salah is extra special. Best non Messi player of the last decade. He's turning in one last legendary season for Liverpool and no other team is good enough to stop him. If he was Spanish he'd probably have a Ballon d'Or.

                      RocktheCasbah I think we all agree he has done a good job, just that I for one, as I cannot speak for others...don't see him as this genius like you lot do. Is it good? Yes, is it impressive? Maybe? Don't know, let's not act like he has not spent 800 mil and some of the highest wages in the league to do it. Sometimes reading stuff online about Arteta you would think he is managing Wolves or something. It's not that he took us over and just worked at it with what he had, no. He outspent all bar Chelsea to do it, and yeah, good job as you can see with Chelsea and United, there are others that can fuck it up, and he did not.
                      And this place is ok, no doubt, but go on reddit for example, you would think he is god, he does no wrong, Wenger was not as loved as Arteta is, for some reason, that I will never understand. Before the season started there was a conversation about who is better, who would you have Pep or Arteta, and you couldn't even suggest pep was the better manager...
                      I don't think I'm negative or unreasonable to say that come may 2026 he needs to have won the league or the CL or he needs to get fired. Keep in mind that by the end of that season he will be over 6 years and 1 billion in.
                      Good manager, but let's not act like there are not a good group of them out there that can create good teams after spending 800 mil.

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                          You have to giggle when mega genius Klopp had Salah and Mane forced on him when he actually wanted Brandt and Gotze instead. He won the lottery.

                          HomeSteak

                          You’ve been posting some real unhinged drivel recently.

                          Some of you lot just need to admit you don’t like Arteta and never will and we can all stop going around in circles wasting each others time.

                              RocktheCasbah it's not that short a time. Arteta celebrated 5 years in charge a few days ago. That's half a decade. No one's calling for his head but he's not beyond criticism either. The teams good now but we have fallen off a bit this season and we haven't won anything since the COVID season. Arteta took over a team that were 5th the season before and made it to a European final. It's not like we were where United are now. As much as things aren't so terrible they're not brilliant either. People just want us to take those steps to move us from nearly men to champions.

                                  Claudius It's part of the same dynamic. We play in a very plotted out, elaborate way that lets us dominate space and create overloads etc. Our players have become accustomed to intricate schemes and extreme attention to detail which manifests itself positively in things like set pieces. Against your typical team, we can be overwhelming and score 5-6 goals. But against a savvy coach who can set up an effective mid block (to stymie our possession play) or low block (to reduce space in the box), we can struggle to create chances from open play.

                                  So the fact that we score so many goals overall doesn't matter. The issue is with consistency in creating good attacking chances, which you need to consistently win games. We're better than Liverpool in some ways, I'm not saying the grass is greener with them, but it's clear when you watch them how complicated we make things sometimes. We need to have a capacity for simplicity, creativity, directness, exploiting the superior quality of our players, a bit of Wenger energy to be honest.

                                      goon is it unhinged to say that 6 years and 1 billion I should expect him to win something? Lol When do you expect him to get his next trophy? Or is the delicate genius not to be bothered with stupid shit like winning

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