Pepe LeFrits I won't, but I feel a strong urge to answer "Your mum"

@Clrnc's count is more practical in my opinion. If City improve their goal difference by 3 relative to us after an unlikely draw at Spurs, then we are equal on goal difference and they win.

If they improve only by 2, we are still ahead on goal difference and we win.

Barring improbable edge cases such as us beating Everton 7–6 etc

HomeSteak then they need 4 yes

They don't need 4, they need 3! @Pepe LeFrits see this is what happens when you tell people this!

Burnwinter It's called mathematics.

You're all measuring goals in a conversation about goal difference, I can't help you with that. It's like trying to think about gravity without the concept of acceleration.

(I hope I'm right by the way, it's fucking late here)

It's called something but it's definitely not mathematics

If we lose the league on goals scored, I expect to see you and @Clrnc in here making the principled stand for our points tally to be adjusted down from 89 points to 88, for consistency's sake

Clrnc They don't need 4, they need 3!

Sorry dude, I'm unsettled and I'm transfer listing myself. If they draw with Spurs, they need a 4 goal margin next weekend if we're winning by one.

But to beat us, they need to improve their goal difference by 3 relative to us. Not 2. That's why I say we're at +2.

The reason I'm talking about goal differences and not goals is that in the context of goal difference, our values (the ones that go into the table) are actually sets of number pairs, that is:

GD = { d = { (g , a): g – a = d }: d ∈ ℤ }

These sets are the natural equivalence classes over the result of subtracting the second element of the number pair (a, total goals against) from the first (g, total goals for).