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Clrnc

If they win 4-0 midweek it will be +1 to City. Which means a 2-0 win will do it. If itโ€™s 5-0 then we should be able to win 3-0.

Basically you guys are suggesting that itโ€™s likely City are going to beat Spurs away by +2 more than weโ€™re going to beat Everton at home.

Pepe LeFrits Ok the other way round, if they draw at Spuds, they need to beat West Ham by 3 goals more than we beat Everton.

Normally when you are +3 you expect the other team to need to be 4 goals better off, but not this case.

HomeSteak no. we're +3 ahead. if city tie one of the games and we win 1-0, they need to win 4-0 to win it all

    naz oh yeah, I read that post wrong, we are +3 yes. then they need 4 yes. Spurs will win during the week so it won't matter

      Pepe LeFrits I won't, but I feel a strong urge to answer "Your mum" ๐Ÿ˜†

      @Clrnc's count is more practical in my opinion. If City improve their goal difference by 3 relative to us after an unlikely draw at Spurs, then we are equal on goal difference and they win.โœณ๏ธ

      If they improve only by 2, we are still ahead on goal difference and we win.

      โœณ๏ธ Barring improbable edge cases such as us beating Everton 7โ€“6 etc

      if spurs win on tuesday, i'll buy a scum shirt.

      then burn it 10 minutes later

      Pepe LeFrits It's called mathematics.

      You're all measuring goals in a conversation about goal difference, I can't help you with that. It's like trying to think about gravity without the concept of acceleration.

      (I hope I'm right by the way, it's fucking late here)

        Burnwinter yeah. It's such a weird vibe. We have just set a record for wins and are going into the final weekend with a chance to win. And we are engrossed in mathematics.

        Burnwinter It's called mathematics.

        You're all measuring goals in a conversation about goal difference, I can't help you with that. It's like trying to think about gravity without the concept of acceleration.

        (I hope I'm right by the way, it's fucking late here)

        It's called something but it's definitely not mathematics ๐Ÿ˜†

        If we lose the league on goals scored, I expect to see you and @Clrnc in here making the principled stand for our points tally to be adjusted down from 89 points to 88, for consistency's sake

          Clrnc They don't need 4, they need 3! ๐Ÿ˜†

          Sorry dude, I'm unsettled and I'm transfer listing myself. If they draw with Spurs, they need a 4 goal margin next weekend if we're winning by one.

          But to beat us, they need to improve their goal difference by 3 relative to us. Not 2. That's why I say we're at +2.

          The reason I'm talking about goal differences and not goals is that in the context of goal difference, our values (the ones that go into the table) are actually sets of number pairs, that is:

          GD = { d = { (g , a): g โ€“ a = d }: d โˆˆ โ„ค }

          These sets are the natural equivalence classes over the result of subtracting the second element of the number pair (a, total goals against) from the first (g, total goals for).

          Pepe LeFrits It's called something but it's definitely not mathematics ๐Ÿ˜†

          I can't help you any further. You're wrong. ๐Ÿ˜†

          Haha can't believe people are making the GD thing more complex than it is. Basically, if City draw against Spuds, they'll have to win by at least 3 more goals than us on the final day. Here are few examples:

          1) Arsenal 1-0 Everton - City would need the following results to win the league: 4-0 or 5-1 or 6-2 etc
          2) Arsenal 2-0 Everton - anything worse than 5-0 or 6-1 or 7-2 etc win for City will see us win the league.

          I just bought an online ticket for Spuds - City, no doubt setting myself up for one of the biggest disappointments in my life. Desperately need Liverpool to beat Villa tomorrow.