The anti-DEI stuff is engineered to give its spectator the vicarious thrill of punishing minority groups and their supporters.

That thrill is what you get to have instead of getting to have a more level playing field, a fair society and a better life. You're still behind the legacy admissions getting into the Ivy League.

I saw someone had filmed a good ole' boy / minuteman type blocking the door of a USAID office the other day. Then someone else made a photo montage of mostly just the black women who couldn't attend their former workplace. Which promptly went viral among Twitter fascists. That's what "anti-DEI" means: payback for chauvinists.

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JazzG on look, 2 elected officials talking about making improvements to the government. the way clinton conducted his government efficiency initiative is a million miles away from what musk is doing. another decent attempt at a false equivalency though. this 'what are you, against fixing waste and corruption bro?' argument is peurile. keep trying though.

      JazzG lol at thinking they won't put their thumb on the scale with elections. give it a few months until you hear about their election efficiency initiative. the runaway criminal party will definitely want to 'clean up' elections

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        Gurgen Catching up on the news - it's incredible. All this stuff on DOGE and everything else is smoke and mirrors really compared to the reshaping of the world order.

            JazzG I’ve worked in an admissions and financial aid university of a big school doing admin while I was a student. I can assure you that’s not what happens in these places. People don’t sit around conspiring to fill the school with dumb black and brown kids.

            What you will find though is a lot of white kids being pushed through because their folks donated a million dollars or they have a chance to be a future Olympic athlete. Why aren’t you complaining about that? In fact legacies are 2-5x as likely as regular applicants to be admitted at Ivy League schools, where typically only 1/20 make the cut.

                Claudius it's funny to complain about "DEI hires" and then look at the various people Trump has chosen for their roles.

                    QuincyAbeyie yup. Cos it’s not about DEI. It’s about maintaining white supremacy.
                    At least Trump and co don’t try to hide it. They’re quite open with policies like refugee programs for Afrikaners. Other folks have had to operate on the fringes with words like woke for the last few years. It’s a good time to be a white supremacist. .

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                      Gazza M Trump said Elon Musk and his team were gonna do it this way and that is what is happening. I mean tough if you don't like it but he won the popular vote and all swing states, he has a pretty strong mandate to do all this. When mid terms come if this all turns out to be a load of rubbish the voters will punish them and he'll end up a lame duck president for the rest of his term.

                      Obama's staffers talking about it and saying they should have done some of this stuff.

                      Mirth I'd agree with the latter, the US are taking about multi polar worlds and looks like they have no interest in spreading themselves thin. Their main worry and focus is China. Marco Rubio did an interview recently and it kind of gave a glimpse into their thinking. Ties into this all of a sudden obsession with the Panama Canal and Greenland.

                      Claudius The supreme court ruling that overturned Affirmative Action was bought forward by I think a conservative group who said the policies discriminated again Asian American students, are these Asian Americans the people who are trying to maintain white supremacy? A recent case gone into California alleging discrimination against Asian Americans. My understanding is that community feels pretty strongly about this, I had a few Chinese friends and spoke about them about this culture in their community of prioritising education over everything else. So I'm not surprised they feel a bit annoyed.

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                              JazzG he had the lowest popular vote margin since Gerald Ford. that's not a mandate, which is a word republicans seem to have conflated with monarch.

                              obama had an actual 'mandate' margin of 9m in term one and 5m in term two. his guys wish they could get away with this stuff, but they know he would've been lynched and probably assassinated if he'd tried a fraction of what the current administration is doing.

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                                  A mandate doesn't come from what margin you think is acceptable. He won the electoral college, popular votes and all the swing states. And all this DOGE stuff he has been going on about it since the summer.

                                  Yes Obama had a mandate and a shame he didn't use his mandate to go after the banks and put people in jail after their fucks up tanked the world economy. Living a nice cushy life now I hear though.

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                                    JazzG stop trying to pretend the way DOGE is conducting itself was always part of the agenda. it was sold as an external consultancy that would only be making cost cutting recommendations to the executive and congressional branches to decide on. I knew that was an utter load of horseshit, just like their denials abour P25 being their agenda despite them now enacting it basically line for line. no-one voted for elon musk to delete entire govt departments and have hiring/firing power over the federal workforce with no oversight, no matter how many times the word mandate is thrown around.

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                                      This tweet goes into the detail about DOGE, if this is correct they have repurposed one of Obama's agencies and turned it into DOGE.

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                                        JazzG "if this tweet is true" haha. did your algorithm recommend the maga lawyer who 'puts the axe in the skull of tyranny?'

                                          Jazz, I don't mean to go at you so hard mate, honestly. we've shared the same digital space since like 2003 and i know you to be a top poster. to be completely candid, OMITT is one of the last pockets of the internet I actually frequent, since I've watched the rest of it go to hell over the last 15 years. there's so much fast moving bullshit out there, that I feel doubly compelled to call it out when I see some of it in here. chalk it under being overly protective perhaps. anyway I'll probably post in this thread a bit less. the political climate is aimed to demoralise and get people disengaged and I fear it's working to a tee.

                                            It’s tempting, but I’d very much advocate against this. I like to know what people think and how they think. Folks here recently have heard my views on the transgender debate. It may not be popular, but I feel unless people are being genuinely and deliberately reckless and malicious with their words, then by all means, I want to hear their views. You learn a little in every discussion, whether or not you end up in agreement eventually.

                                            Plus, eda o laropin. People experience shit, perspectives change.

                                              RowJimmy id agree with flobs. I don't think this forum needs it

                                                I agree with you both on that @Gazza M @flobaba.

                                                It's a non echo chamber type space online, which is a bit of a rarity. We've also still got people from quite a few different places and walks of life on here. No bad thing we don't agree on everything.

                                                My views on politics are actually a bit more relaxed (believe it or not) than they used to be. But I am damn sure I don't think what's happening in the US currently is a democratic restoration.