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mdgoonah41

The implications of Loper Bright are too sweeping to exhaustively detail here, but its impact will be especially relevant in cases where, say, a federal agency is in Democratic hands, and a reviewing court is in conservative hands. How should “forever chemicals” be regulated? Don’t ask scientists who understand these chemicals’ harmful impacts on humans and the environment—ask Justice Neil Gorsuch, whose expertise is such that he recently authored an opinion about EPA regulation of “nitrogen oxides” while repeatedly referring to “nitrous oxide,” better known as laughing gas. How should geographic areas be defined for purposes of Medicare hospital reimbursements? Previously, that would have been a good question for the people running Medicare; now, it could fall to the likes of Judge Aileen Cannon. What regulations can the Occupational Safety and Health Administration issue to protect workers engaged in potentially dangerous work? That’s a fantastic decision not for regulators who have spent their careers dealing with actual workplace injuries, but for Judge Jim Ho, who is of the opinion that doctors experience an “aesthetic injury” when a woman gets an abortion.

https://ballsandstrikes.org/scotus/loper-bright-supreme-court-war-on-government-just-getting-started/

JazzG

Coombs I'm not too familiar with how it works in America and would need to read more into this but that would be my initial feelings as well.

MistaT From there you look to Newsom or Whitmer, and neither feels that strong either.

Bloody hell the options are bad man.

Bryant

Lol Newsom would be a mistake. Would be an easy attack over his record in California. Sky high prices for everything with highest taxes here but then there's a whole of host other issues. I'm sure the rest of America would love to have that!

I guess given the Dems love for a diverse candidate (not a white male), Whitmer would be the best choice she's from Michigan. Would help for WI and PA too.

JazzG

In 12 years the decline has been incredible. This is elderly abuse at this stage.

Gazza M

trump actually praised CNN for how they handled the debate. that pivot to 'the middle' they chose to take 2 years ago is working out well

JazzG

Mirth Is Kamala Harris that much worse? Surely it’s better if she stands instead of Biden

In the comments I've just seen this

This is what happens when you pick unqualified candidates for VP. She was dreadful in the debates last time and I think we all know why she got the job!

flobaba

JazzG cos she sounds dumb?

QuincyAbeyie

JazzG it's the video Flobaba replied to.

mdgoonah41

SCOTUS just ruled in favor of trump in the immunity case. the POTUS is now a literal king who is accountable to no one. we are cooked.

JazzG

Hasn't that always been the case? Seems like an unofficial rule has just been put down in writing.

Obviously there needs to be clarity as what an official and unofficial action is.

Qwiss

JazzG Hasn't that always been the case?

Kind of. Depends what you do. Just don't try to make peace with Americas enemies and you can get away with anything else.

Coombs

Seems difficult to justify anything the president does related to election certification an "official act", seeing as the FEC and EAC are overseen by house and senate committees and are independent agencies over which the president has no jurisdiction.

Gazza M

Coombs perhaps, but such a ruling does feel like it was aimed at muddying the waters just enough so that trumps legal team can squirm out of the Georgia and DC cases. it also re-emphasises that the supreme court is partisan body that will rule in favour of republicans

Coombs

Gazza M for sure, but it's not a very strong ruling and its one of those that you can imagine being overturned down the line when the worm inevitably turns.

They didn't define what an official act is, so that's where the lawyering will have to focus moving forward. I could see an argument that official acts can only exist within the framework of presidential jurisdiction being quite difficult to refute, but these days who knows.

mdgoonah41

the worst part of this election cycle coming up is that when trump moonwalks in to a 2nd term and republicans take back the senate, id bet there is a 99% chance that thomas and alito both retire. trump will then appoint 2 extremely unqualified 40 something hacks to SCOTUS, like aileen cannon and matthew kaczmarek. at that point, they will have a 6-3 hammerlock on the court for another 30 years. at that point, i'll have either already died or be on my deathbed.

JazzG

flobaba

Sounds perfectly normal to me

Gazza M

fascinating to watch the corporate media suddenly being so ruthless with their coverage of Biden, particularly CNN. it started within minutes of the debate ending. theyve become super adversarial, almost hostile, with anyone defending biden on their air. calls must have been made. there's a new script to follow

flobaba

Yes, but it's sad it has to come to this. It's the classic emperor has no clothes tale. Folks who see Biden every day already knew this, yet they felt comfortable enough to wheel out his carcass, and stand it up at a public debate with the intention of showing people that everything is great. How arrogant. It's clear his handlers (Jill Biden) are the ones benefitting from his presidency and just want to enjoy the perks of office for as long as they can. Over here our options are the dead or the damned. And both are fools. These are not great options.

Gurgen

Trump is winning isn’t he? Jesus H Christ what a mess. Between this and the alt right incels winning elections in Europe, some bleak years are ahead.

JazzG

Gurgen Trump is winning isn’t he? Jesus H Christ what a mess. Between this and the alt right incels winning elections in Europe, some bleak years are ahead.

Can't see anything else at the moment , he's basically taken over the Republican party and got them under his control. The cranks are in charge there now!

Democrats are terrified of him and seem to think only Biden can beat him, only problem is Biden needs to be put in a care home not the white house! Like flobaba said, Biden's advisors/handlers more interested in keeping him in power than thinking of the country.

QuincyAbeyie

Isn't that just the same video you posted earlier? From a person with this cover photo:
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/53084130/1717236999/1500x500

JazzG

QuincyAbeyie I don't recall posting this video? I just typed it into twitter search and the first one that came up I put it here.

You probably won't get left leaning Twitter users posting the above so sorry to disappoint you and not have a user with a cover photo that you'd approve of.

Gazza M yeah, please no posts from right wing drivel accounts managed by 'team trump'. things are bad enough as it is

Unfortunately things are so partisan at the moment only the looney users will post shit like that.

Gazza M

yeah, please no posts from right wing drivel accounts managed by 'team trump'. things are bad enough as it is

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