They're going with Kamala because they know they're losing this one. Keeping the better candidates on hold for 2028.

lmao actblue got $50m in donations in 8 hours. dems were desperate for literally anyone but biden that they donated $50m to a cop that no one really liked until 8 hours ago

kamikaze Harris will lose badly because she'll run an "action figure" fanfic campaign. "I prosecuted bad guys!" as per her 2020 campaign material. You can't run such a campaign without showing just as much of the "action figure" that is Trump.

It's shameful for the Democrats how much they've fostered this situation in which Donald Trump, of all people, is absolutely hosing them on class war and "elites" rhetoric.

This is the entropic endpoint of the horse-trading concessional "safe pair of hands" politics we see with (for example) Starmer and Albanese. For the Democrats, a popular platform and leadership that creates its own media energy separate from Trump-phobia is vital.

I saw an interview Bill Maher did with Buttigieg the other day that went viral. I've got no great love for Maher or Buttigieg but it's the only rhetoric I've heard in recent times from a Democrat that seems likely to cut through.

Buttigieg was quizzed about Silicon Valley and Thiel's influence on JD Vance, and just responded something like: "Let's not overcomplicate it, Silicon Valley billionaires may well have their private desires, but they'll support Trump because they're very rich men and the Republican Party is the party whose agenda benefits very rich men."

    kamikaze Good to see you on here by the way Kami. As far as western electoral politics goes, the terms are already outdated, but I reckon I've been "blackpilled" for about a decade and I'm getting close to "grillpilled" as the farce goes on.

      One vegetable out the way, the next vegetable about to take power. People used to laugh at African countries being ruled by lunatics but how is this any better ffs

      Rest of the planet looks on in hopes Cheeto in chief drops the nuclear football in the White House.

      awooga83 none of that will happen. He'll talk big talk but the chances of him pulling out of Taiwan are zero. Not that a president who was less hawkish about China would be a bad thing. Someones going to end up negotiating an unpopular peace deal in Ukraine eventually, a war that may never have started if Trump had beaten Biden. And the US backs Israel to the hilt no matter what so it wont be different there.

        Claudius dems will still be underdogs, for sure, but i think this was needed. harris was polling better than biden in theoretical polls, now the focus will be on her, so we'll see what the numbers look like. it really comes down to like 5 states, so that is all that matters at this point.

        while its never the most likely outcome, dems could still possibly win the house and lose the senate/presidency. that would be really bad on one hand, because alito/thomas are likely to retire if trump wins, and he'll replace them with 40 year old hacks who will cement the scotus supermajority for another 30 years. but, winning the house, even by a slim majority, would prevent trump from passing any catastrophic laws.

            Harris needs a debate and she needs to kill it, which lets be honest shouldn't be hard for any half decent politician against Trump. She could probably do with a big progressive policy that Biden didn't already have to hang her hat on and energise people too.

            She's got plenty of time to turn it around. A 100 days is a long time for an election cycle in most countries and that's enough time to change the minds of a nation. Trump's team have generally attacked her for not being the smartest or most competent but honestly that's the weakest attack line they have given who they're putting up.

            On the other hand, a part of me thinks they're setting her up to fail and focus on 2028 now.

              Mirth i think setting her up to fail would have been pushing biden to stay on the ticket, accepting the loss, and then she has no standing to claim the nomination in 2028. or, no one coming out and endorsing her now and forcing her to try and win people over at the convention. the opposite actually happened, nearly everyone came out and supported her immediately, including most of the other strong candidates for president, and then the progressive caucus and the black caucus. they all could have sat on the sidelines until the convention, but them jumping in to immediately support her seems more genuine than not.

                  mdgoonah41 don't discount the republicans shooting their own dicks off as well. at the end of the day, normies generally won't get off the couch to vote for the monster mash

                    mdgoonah41

                    Yeah, this is her biggest chance, given that it's against Trump. $81 million already apparently fundraised in one day.

                    But agree with the other comments, this is going to keep entrenching the Democratic elites (obama, pelosi, etc) controlling everything...They brought us Biden and now took him away lol

                      Iā€™m actually amazed at the turn around for Democratic Party support. So far it feels like people are staying true to their ā€œanyone younger than Bidenā€ stance. Part of my surprise is that ā€œyoungerā€ is generally code for ā€œprogressiveā€ and Kamala certainly isnā€™t that.

                      Iā€™m not sure if sheā€™s just riding a high, or got some string PR/training, but her tone in recent media appearances has been spot on. Sheā€™s actually nailed a balance between snark/sass (shots at Trump) and seriousness (to appeal to suburban/centrist voters).

                      Itā€™ll be interesting to see what demographics she over indexes with, and if those are represented in swing states. VP choice now seems to hinge on what swing states the Dema feel are most winnable - Kelly for AZ/Nevada vs Shapiro for the Midwest/rust belt.

                        MistaT itā€™s a good confluence of events. For several months everyone was complaining about choosing between Biden and Trump. And then Dems really fell out of Biden but he dug his feet long enough that it was both fractious for the party and delayed a decision until the electionā€™s eve. So now everyone is focused on getting over the line. And it helps that sheā€™s a candidate without a massive recent national track record, so she can brand herself quite freely.

                        I think she will do it