Someone call Hilary!

But seriously they've fucked themselves making Kamala VP. She's a woman and black so the optics of dropping her aren't going to look very good and no doubt there will be those who will bring that up.

Also the new president is sworn in January, raises questions as to who is running the country right now because it doesn't seem like Biden is fully there. Hasn't been there for a long time and those who pointed that out were shamed for doing so but now it has become so obvious even Democrats can't spin it.

This guy is usually quite accurate as well, this is a major cover up and it is a disgrace how long they have been covering for this. If that horror show didn't happen at the debate all these Democrats would be pretending like nothing was wrong.

if they try changing candidates republicans will file state lawsuits to stop the new candidate from getting on the ballot anyway. it's going to be biden. who knows, corporate media flipping on him so brazenly might create the unlikeliest of underdog narratives. still a few months left for trump and his extremists to trip over their dicks

    Gazza M if they try changing candidates republicans will file state lawsuits to stop the new candidate from getting on the ballot anyway.

    What's the provision if Biden dies, out of curiosity? Harris has to run?

        Burnwinter don't think so. AFAIK the party can pick whoever they like. They can also switch up on him at the convention too if I understand it correctly.

          Would've thought there'd be some contingency plan for if the candidate gets shot, indicted or declared mentally unfit ... certainly seem to be real aggregate risks about a lot of the candidates who get put up in the US system

          Apparently if he dies before the convention the delegates would pick who ran but if he dies after it the DNC decides.

          Not to be macabre, but Biden dying peacefully in his sleep round about now would be the best outcome possible for the Dems. 🤔

            I was feeling bad for him before, but not now...I mean, he must know how bad he is right? He should have stepped down a long time ago

              HomeSteak I was feeling bad for him before, but not now...I mean, he must know how bad he is right? He should have stepped down a long time ago

              Thing is when people start to go mentally, they aren't fully aware themselves what is happening. This is where loved ones should step in and make the call. In this case Jill Biden is digging in even more as it seems she quite enjoys her role as First Lady.

                  HomeSteak the fact that he doesn't seem to know is precisely why it's so bad. If he were more self aware, that would make him more aware in general, and he wouldn't have this problem.

                    JazzG does the whole Jill Biden thing have any merit? Seems to me it’s the usual outdated narrative of an overbearing wife being at fault.

                        Burnwinter Not to be macabre, but Biden dying peacefully in his sleep round about now would be the best outcome possible for the Dems. 🤔

                        We're planning assassinations now Burnsy?

                            banduan I'm not that invested in US politics, but I'd see it as a disaster if Trump won. That "Project 2025" agenda with a hand-picked list of thousands of wingnuts to replace current bureaucrats sounds like it would kneecap the United States' already crippled state capacity.

                            I'm not genuinely arguing for a wee bit of "involuntary assisted dying", but if this absurd impasse goes on ... I heard vaguely today that if Biden stands down, the Biden team has to willingly volunteer to redistribute its campaign funds to Democrat committees in order for them to back whichever other candidate ... it's a wild system they call democracy apparently ...

                              its funny that really the entire direction of the united states might have been impacted by that short video of hillary stumbling getting into that van at the 9/11 service when it was 1 billion degrees outside. that was when all the insanity around her really ramped up and her lead in the polls leveled off.

                                Ugh, they should've just elected Sanders four years ago.

                                is what I was about to write before I realized he's even older than Biden. It truly is an old man's game.

                                Sanders is still lucid though. People are acting like this Biden stuff has come out of nowhere but the signs of this were apparent 4 years ago, its just gotten steadily worse over time as these things tend to.

                                They're all geriatric. Corbyn too.

                                George Clooney came out against Biden the other day, he could be ideal late-breaking presidential campaign fodder, but his wife planning to indict Netanyahu might rule him out ... and I imagine his dirt file is fairly long as well. 😆

                                Mirth let's put it like this. She seems more "all there" than he does, and more than most, can probably see the aging and stress the 4 years of holding the Presidency has laid on him. Yet she's still encouraging him to run and saying he's doing great, at least publicly. To whose benefit?