Deadline day Summer 23.: Page 4 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Deadline day Summer 23.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

lorddulaarsenal

Lol the guy isn’t Maradona.

City will destroy Fulham with or without this guy.

Just because we were shit against them doesn’t mean our rivals will be.

They have one of the worst defences in the league.

Clrnc

love it

Clrnc

Pepe LeFrits Balogun... going for lesser than Matsen in his last year.

DiabyKungFu

goon I said this before but for all the complaints about our selling prices hardly any of them end up good value for the buyers. That's the bigger problem, we don't sell well because generally what we sell is trash.

To be fair, I think there's an intelligent criticism about our seeming relative unwillingness to deal Balogun to rich suitors. But it seems like most of the criticism takes the form of "Why was Edu unable to telemarket his way into selling Cedric Soares for £8m?". That combined with befuddlement that high-level teenage prospects are deemed more valuable assets than middle-career decent players.

QuincyAbeyie

Didn't expect them to go big on two strikers, but they seem to have learned their lesson from signing older superstars. Ugarte, Muani, Ramos, Dembele, Barcola, Kang-in Lee, Skriniar and Lucas Hernandez is a good mix of youngsters, players in their prime and experience. If the rumors of Mbappe renewing are true, they might be good.

Ridiculous level of spending though, as usual.

Clrnc

lorddulaarsenal

Surely handing out 8 year contracts will bite them at some point. Very few players stay at clubs that long

daredevil

lorddulaarsenal

Not when you have clubs ready to bail them out.

mdgoonah41

lorddulaarsenal dont think so. if the player wants to leave 3 years into an 8 year deal, and there is in interest in the player, they can sell the player and bring back funds. which theyve clearly done this window. the only way it ends up hurting them is if they pay big money for a player and that player gets hurt (and cant be sold) or the player completely nosedives and not even mid table teams want them

lorddulaarsenal

Pleased we didn’t move for him

HomeSteak

lorddulaarsenal Barcelona wanted Cancelo but are broke and could not pay anything , Girona needed a CB(Girona is owned by the City group and Pep's brother has decent size stake in it). They made it work...

Wolves did not want to sell Nunes to City until they had a replacement, they did not have much time...they got the replacement....from Girona.

I'm sure this is all legal but still...

Clrnc

No surprise he is at a club like Girona at the age of 22. Never understood why Pep and Barca was fighting so hard for him few years ago

lorddulaarsenal

Clrnc just can’t be a top defender that size

Pepe LeFrits

mdgoonah41 the player completely nosedives and not even mid table

You make it sound like this is rare. There is a strong likelihood that a lot of the signings they make won't pan out and they won't be able to shift them.

lorddulaarsenal

United love buying slow players don’t they. Amrobat and Reguilon. Guff signings. They’re a dense club

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss [

The viewpoint of my mate Luke. He's an Everton fan. Not sure he's going to be shedding any tears at Iwobi's departure..

Qwiss

RocktheCasbah link isn't working for me.

Anyway I'm.sure your mate will be crying by the end of the season.

mdgoonah41

Pepe LeFrits which players havent they been able to shift recently? they sold a worthless player to arsenal for £65m this summer. they've sold a bunch of other guys with very low profiles for balogun fees.

signing a longer contract is bad for the player in most cases, because it limits their leverage. its almost never a bad deal for the club itself. especially now that the saudi bailout fund is available too

daredevil

mdgoonah41

I bet most Chelsea fans are sitting there wondering how we got 35m for some unknown kid who was loaned out to Reims. Your ignorance of Chelsea prospects is expected and other clubs fans would be equally ignorant of ours.

Unless, you have your finger on the pulse regarding all the young loanees across different clubs and their subsequent performances, there's no way to say who is worth what. Only indicator really is the level of interest in the player and how much prospective clubs are offering.

There's not a whole lot the selling club can do to affect that. It's the market demand that informs the price. Demand always dictates the price, yet our management are lambasted for not being able to get other clubs to spend money on our wantaways.

Pepe LeFrits

mdgoonah41 which players havent they been able to shift recently? they sold a worthless player to arsenal for £65m this summer. they've sold a bunch of other guys with very low profiles for balogun fees.

They've also got mountains of deadwood that they had to write off huge amounts on. They spent €115m on Lukaku and can't get a buyer for him, lost €44m on Pulisic, €15m on Koulibaly, €12m on Aubayemang, Bakayoko 40m, Rahman 26, Ziyech...

Amortisation isn't an infinite money cheat. 1bn stretched over 8 year contracts is still a 125m a year that they need to cover. That'd be somewhere between 22-25% of their revenue, which at least this season is going to fall significantly. It doesn't sound like they're being prudent with their wage bill either so selling players is probably going to be needed every season for them to comply, and probably a lot of them.

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss heh, I think it's unlikely. And I say that as someone who was generally pro Iwobi in his time with us.

He basically said £22m a good deal for Everton, good on his day, completely ineffective when not but zero creativity left in the side now.

invisibleman18

Always liked Holding and wish him well. Solid defender who played in 2 FA Cup Final wins. Harry Kane would swap everything to have his medals.
We look very short in defence now and can see a situation where we have Elneny at CB.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

invisibleman18

Is Eleney not going to be out until 2024?

We will have Rice in defence and Jorginho in Midfield or something stupid like that.

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