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Kai Havertz

Gazza M

Coombs 100 percent. nothing would please me more than havertz going on to be a world beater for arsenal

Qwiss

Pepe LeFrits He hasn't lived up to his potential yet but he's still a quality, PL proven player

He has his qualities, most of them shown before he went to chelsea and in the very rare Chelsea game, often in Europe. I'd say he's the opposite of "PL proven" though, what he's shown in the PL goes against him. If Arteta sees something all those Chelsea managers didn't and gets him playing to a level where he looks like a £60m player then he'll have done a brilliant job.

Pepe LeFrits

He's been a key starting player at one of the top teams in the league under multiple managers for three seasons now. He hasn't exploded the way people expected but he's definitely proven in this league

USArsenal

Pepe LeFrits
I think this is one thing people are forgetting. He did not set the world on fire, but he was pretty decent. And having to contend with so many managers over that time is quite unsettling for a player. If he is on a team that is more settled and have an actual plan, he may show much better. At least that is what I am hoping.

Qwiss

I would think of "proven" meaning he's proven he can do well in the league. He's proven the opposite so far.

It's a big call from Arteta so hopefully he has big plans for him.

Pepe LeFrits

He has done well in the league, he just hasn't become of the very elite 9s in the league. He's a good player as evidenced by him continuing to get his game at Chelsea for 3 years now. If he's not PL proven then the vast majority of players in the league aren't proven either. Nearly every team in the league would put him into their starting eleven next August if they could

Qwiss

Pepe LeFrits Nearly every team in the league would put him into their starting eleven next August if they could

I don't think so. Certainly not the teams that are hoping for a top 4 spot.

KingslandBarge

Needs to prove he's better than Willock. Both are on different trajectories but quietly confident we get a good tune out of Havertz (if the deal goes through) and shift his trajectory.

Claudius

KingslandBarge
You can’t compare Havertz to Willock. Wilock is like all the other players we have been trying to shed for years. Completely unsuited to this team. Havertz is a technical and flexible player. I also went and looked at his numbers and video again. His pressing is good, it’s Chelsea’s team pressing that is bad. This is a good example of a Wenger style rehabilitation buy.

Kel Varnsen

Unless Havertz surprises us all, I really don't see how he can replace Xhaka in the 8 position. Sure, he's better going forward, but Xhaka was vital in providing help for Zinchenko. Often dropping down at LB when Zinchenko was everywhere else.

Ricky1985

We have to get better in our pasing and ability to control and dominate. Havertz will help to do that. Ødegaard and Havertz will be able to spend the vast majority of matches in the opponent's defensive third - as Xhaka did for most of the season when we played properly.

Ricky1985

I'm surprised you're not a fan, Kel. He's such a smart and technically gifted footballer. Never a proper 9, the way Chelsea have used him, though.

Kel Varnsen

Ricky1985

Don't think he is that technically gifted. More functional than gifted.

I am skeptical, but I hope he surprises me. I haven't seen him play that much, and I've never paid particularly attention to him. On the ball he seems like nothing special, so hopefully he's a genius off the ball.

Gazza M

wonder how we shuffle things if we do play him as a left sided 8. he offers decent high pressing, but won't fall back into the double pivot on defense like xhaka. some kind of back four alchemy will no doubt take place to fill those vacated midfield spaces. timber to triple invert to cover for zinchenko and havertz or something

Doc

He has quality technique, not van persie level but its really good.. Think its his height/gangly frame that maybe doesn't make it stand out... Didn't realise how intelligent his movement of the ball is as well... We are going to go up levels instantly from an attacking perspective if he can play in the 8 role.. still not convinced how it will work defensively, but excited to see what Arteta has in mind... Great cover for the front line as well.. bring on preseason.

Clrnc

People are going to be surprised how good he is on the ball. He is incredible intelligent and aware of his surroundings too.

lorddulaarsenal

He’s quite erratic technically so will no doubt frustrate at times, but he’s able to hurt any team and step up when it counts. I love the way he gets in to the box and is able to get a chance away. His heading is particularly impressive.

Potential is massive. Great base physically and I think Arteta is the kind of manger he needs to realise improvement

QuincyAbeyie

Always rated this guy and certainly didn't ignore him entirely and then suddenly started praising him the moment we were rumored to sign him, so I'm looking forward to see what he can do for us. Should be good.

Big Willie

Why do we have an official thread in Arsenal Talk when it hasn't even been announced yet? Or have I somehow missed the a tual announcement?

QuincyAbeyie

Big Willie it's basically done

IBL

Big Willie I think it's cos our offer had been accepted and the rest is now a formality. As usual we're really slow in making it official.

flobaba

Threading it into existence. Should have done that for the Rice thread too while we still could.

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