Pepe LeFrits

He turned 31 a month ago, he's in his prime for the position he plays and the type of player he is.

A player like Jorginho is nothing without structure around him. He simply isn't a well rounded enough player to thrive in a hopeless, messy Chelsea team. And he would have been a complete disaster here 3 years ago, too.

But in this side... he really could be something.

Delighted to see he's another big character and leader also. We're making a habit out of collecting those.

    14 days later

    Nice full debut. Finds players between the lines well.

    Mac Allister, Kudus or SMS needed this summer

    Still think he, Xhaka and Zinky is a balance issue but Jorginho isn't the one I'd rest right now.

      good player when we're on top in games and camped in the oppo half. ideally, he's not starting too many league games, particularly harem scarem away games. think he'll be very handy in the Europa League for us

        We needed someone who could step in when Partey is out, last two games imo our game hasn't dropped anywhere near as much as it usually does when Partey misses out for us.

          Outside of the boot for the goal? baller intent.

          I think even the most ardent critics of this signing (myself dead centre) already recognised Jorginho's technique, his frequent minimalism which is easy on the eye and how he plays at a tick and tempo suitable and stable to our game. He's come to work and that intention to shoot tells me he was absorbed in the game.

          On the ball traits weren't high on my list for the needed midfield squad depth though and I am dreading what better sides will do against us. Having the FB tuck in and stay in first phase seems a heavy compensation price, if indeed one would view it as compensation for our questionable overall midfield dynamism.

          Gazza M Yep. He is a good player when we have possession but even in the 2nd half there were SO many times he couldn't intercept or get to the press fast enough as he's simply too unagile and slow.

          Intelligence level out of the moon though.

          Think it's the balance as Qwiss suggests. In any given game there will be a period of sustained pressure from the opposition when we will be tested and given how much the likes of Xhaka and Odegaard have left if the field this season we will be slightly vulnerable with this trio.

          Qwiss agree there is a balance issue, but the quality is clear. His through balls are top top quality.

          One thing to watch. Last few games, Arteta fought Trossard off the bench for Martinelli until today when Trossard started. He’s been bringing Vieira on for Xhaka so wouldn’t be surprised if Vieira replaced the Swiss soon.

          Only issue to think about is transition D. Jorginho as some have mentioned is slow. If Zinchenko is pushed up, Gabriel is isolated. One solution is to play 343 with no striker. Either way there are concessions

            Claudius Yeah. Today's game could have easily gone very wrong and we need to heed the warning signs.

            We are way too open at the back as Jorginho can't cover as a single pivot. We need to tweak the balance. I suggest bringing Tierney back and moving Zinny into midfield as he is more mobile than Xhaka.

            Tierney also stays discipline more often meaning Gabriel don't always need to be so isolated like today. If Bailey scored one of those 2 breakaways we would all be crying here

            Jorginho is excellent. Moves it quickly. Has a great ability to find players between the lines, which is probably why Arteta likes him so much.

            Has a desire to win. Will be interesting to see how he’ll fit in to the side when Partey is available.

              Claudius I don't think Vieira is going to start in the league anytime soon. Great pass today but otherwise I can't image his work rate impresses Arteta.

              Have to say, I love the way this lad plays. Watching him, he just feels like the quintessential modern Arsenal player who ended up at the wrong club. Hopefully I'm not left eating these words.