daredevil Guy is a grown ass millionaire, not a baby boo who needs mollycoddling.

There's plenty of examples out there of footballers who've been overplayed at a younger age and burn out by their late 20s. It's basically what happened with Cesc in 07/08 who carried the team till March and then hit a wall in the title run in. Obviously Saka needs to and is paid to adapt but Arsenal fans should know it comes with a risk.

Look at Man City - Pep rotates his squad through out the season precisely so that they're peaking during the final stretch. Including resting the likes of De Bryune.

For me it's not about protecting him or giving him a breather for the sake of it. His performances look tired whether it's mental or physical. Taking him out for a game to refocus the mind even wouldn't be a bad thing.

I think Arteta wants him to feel exhaustion. Not just tiredness. He's playing him like a trainer making you do intervals. Maybe there's some theory that it'll make him more resilient in the long run, when he can be rotated properly without losing form and rhythm. Just wild speculation, but it feels intentional.

daredevil 'm sure he'd have played less if we had an alternative that was as good as him to warrant rotating like City do. Failing that, he's going to play every game when fit and available.

He is out of form and needs to be pulled. But we're in a title race and starting Nelson is a risk that Arteta understandably doesn't want to take. Especially, as Saka is just as likely to play himself back into form.

I agree with this - Saka has played as many games because we have no other alternative. But that's different from the initial remark that he needs to just grin and bear it because that's what happens at other top clubs.

Qwiss equally possible, if not more so.

Salah's just scored his 29th goal in what's generally considered his worst season in a Liverpool shirt. Saka's had an excellent season but that's the level he needs to get up to before he's truly world class imo.

He can easily do it too but needs that final push to explode

Qwiss seems odd to discount the European tournaments tho. In theory Saka's been up against easier opposition while Salah scored against Madrid and Napoli.

It's splitting hairs but personally I don't think Saka's crossed Salah's level just yet though he's on the cusp of doing so.

I don't think they have radically different roles either - Salah's more of an inside forward but they're both the key outlet. If you can't compare those two then any player comparison is effectively meaningless.

Mirth Look at Man City - Pep rotates his squad through out the season precisely so that they're peaking during the final stretch. Including resting the likes of De Bryune.

Another example that's come to mind - courtesy of the Football Ramble - is how City have managed Haaland all season. It's hard to drop Haaland but Pep's still managed his minutes by taking him off after 60 mins numerous times even when Haaland looked sharp and was on a hattrick. The result is that a) he's in form in the final weeks of the season and b) this is the most appearances he's ever made in a single season and his injury problems from Dortmund seem to have been addressed for now.

Elite football is now a squad game more than ever, we won't go far if we make our best players play 50 game x 90 minutes every season - no matter how many millions they make.

Mirth

Yes, but the reason why City can rest Haaland like that is because Alvarez is good enough to be a title winning striker himself. It's a luxury that no other club in football has (having second string players who are almost, if not as good as the first string). It's why Saka and Salah and other players like them have to learn how to play so much football because normal clubs don't have great alternatives so the talismen have to learn to endure.

Mahrez on his day is every bit as good as both if not better than Saka at least, and he's been used very sparingly this season. City have that luxury, and if we did, then I'm sure Saka would be managed with fewer minutes but we need to find a player as good as Saka to enable that. Look at how Martinelli is being managed since Trossard's arrival.

That's why I think we need to approach Nelson's replacement the same way we did Trossard, which is sign a player who can sit Saka on the bench. If we approach it that way, then we'll benefit but if we view it through the lens of signing an understudy, then we won't sign someone who is good enough to give the manager the confidence to rest Saka more frequently.

flobaba

If Saka got to that level going forward I guarantee he's defensive output would drop. He wouldn't need to.

Salah is one of the best in the PL era in that position. It's not remotely an insult to say Saka isn't on that level yet. Salah was a nobody at 21. But if Saka wants to be the best, he needs to become a killer in the box and other dangerous situations in the same way.

flobaba Goon is right, those stats are being analysed in reverse. Salah has a freer role because he's won that right from his manager because he's an end product monster. It's the same with even the likes of Vinicius Jr (or Messi or Ronaldo) who has worse defensive stats than Saka but you wouldn't say they're worse footballers overall.

Getting that free role is earned and Saka isn't there yet despite Arteta clearly wanting him to be our main attacking outlet.