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Arsenal OUTS 2023 😞

Panda

£25m we bought him for. He's now Premier League proven and in his prime and a very good defender and not bad going forward. £40million is fair for improving a rival.

I'd rather we kept him and played him.

lorddulaarsenal

You’d start him?

Panda

lorddulaarsenal I'd rotate him with Zinchenko. There's plenty of games to go around.

I don't think we could ask for 2 better LBs albeit with different playstyles but I would hope we could turn that into a positive.

Maybe I'm just soft like Wenger and not ruthless enough 😆. I would be sad to see him go. He has been 1 of our better players throughout his time here.

Don Pacifico

Definitely think £30m would be mildly disappointing a fee if we sold him. Sure, we overpaid when we bought him but why shouldn't we make Newcastle do the same? He's shown he's a top LB in the PL and even if he no longer fits our style it doesn't diminish how good a player he is.

samthegooner

If its Newcastle, we have to at least get 30-35m for him.

JazzG

We also have to factor in that Zinchenko is very injury prone so will need to replace Tierney with an adequate player who can step in when needed. So we definitely should not be selling on the cheap.

Clrnc

In the current market it should be around 45m. Bearing in mind they bought Botman for 40m, Gordon for 45m, Willock for 25m, Wood for 25m etc.

QuincyAbeyie

Clrnc what should Zinchenko cost in the current market?

goon

Aside from Wood most of those fees are not too bad for the players they were signing actually, especially Bruno G. They were also all starters at their clubs who didn't want to get rid.

The guy he can't get ahead of cost us £30m despite being a serial winner so if Edu gets anywhere near £40m I'd be very impressed. By our current standards we're probably looking at 15m though...

Clrnc

We are absolute mugs if we sell Tierney at a loss. One of the best LBs out there. Just because he doesn't fit our style now doesnt mean he isnt good

Tactics

I don't get why it's always the LB that has to play the inverted role, why not ask Ben White to do it and then have Tierney playing more as a CB when we are on the ball? Saka is more adept at playing out wide with little support from the full backs compared to Trossard/Martinelli.

Also, surely it's better to have players in the squad who can give you something different especially when plan A isn't working? There have certainly been instances when I felt the inverted LB thing wasn't working and our whole left side was dead and thought we should have used Tierney as an overlapping full back to at least help us generate chances from that side. This could have created more space for Saka on the other end.

flobaba

Tactics

Because Basic Ben White (much like Tierney) doesn't have the technical ability, short passing or dribbling of Zinchenko.

You can't just say hey flobaba go and play like Maradona.

Also Tierney lacks the composure required to play center back. He panics when isolated or put under pressure and is more of a boot it into touch type. Martinez is a great shout though. Lockdown defender, smart, and very good on the ball. Real shame he chose to go to Man U. But we can clearly see the sort of player we desire/need for the fullback role.

Claudius

Tactics
Tierney isn’t a good enough footballer for our system. That’s the basic issue. He has a lot of gaps in his play. He plays like an old school winger. We need someone with midfield skills in the position. It’s a bad fit, and we need to let him go. The same way we let everyone else go.

Tactics

Qwiss I think someone like Martinez can play that role, too bad we didn't get him. He's a CB with playmaking skills, superb defender and he's played in midfield before.

lorddulaarsenal

So what happens to Pepe this summer? How much do you recon we’ll fetch?

Claudius

lorddulaarsenal bag of chips. I don’t think he even has the halo of the rest of the team. Unlike Tavares, Balogun and others who are young and from the outside look like they would be reincorporated. Pepe just looks like bust. So nobody will pay.

I think the way we have to look at summer business is the total bill. Some guys will fetch a lot. Others not so much. What matters is selling the right players and raising a lot

Daz

I actually forgot Pepe was still our player. I'm assuming his loan has been a bit of a flop too?

HomeSteak

Daz 17 games in the league, 6 goals and 1 assist. I know he scored a couple from the penalty spot, and to be fair to him he was injured for a few weeks. Played 2-3 games as CF as well. No idea what they think about him.

QuincyAbeyie

Regardless of what people thought of his time here, quite insane how many bangers he scored in the time he played. Best finisher at the club?

(to Pepe haters, this isn't an attempt to start a discussion about his general play and how it doesn't fit our playing style)

Qwiss

He was insanely good in Ligue 1, we destroyed the poor chap.

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