We also have to factor in that Zinchenko is very injury prone so will need to replace Tierney with an adequate player who can step in when needed. So we definitely should not be selling on the cheap.
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In the current market it should be around 45m. Bearing in mind they bought Botman for 40m, Gordon for 45m, Willock for 25m, Wood for 25m etc.
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Aside from Wood most of those fees are not too bad for the players they were signing actually, especially Bruno G. They were also all starters at their clubs who didn't want to get rid.
The guy he can't get ahead of cost us £30m despite being a serial winner so if Edu gets anywhere near £40m I'd be very impressed. By our current standards we're probably looking at 15m though...
We are absolute mugs if we sell Tierney at a loss. One of the best LBs out there. Just because he doesn't fit our style now doesnt mean he isnt good
Clrnc what should Zinchenko cost in the current market?
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I don't get why it's always the LB that has to play the inverted role, why not ask Ben White to do it and then have Tierney playing more as a CB when we are on the ball? Saka is more adept at playing out wide with little support from the full backs compared to Trossard/Martinelli.
Also, surely it's better to have players in the squad who can give you something different especially when plan A isn't working? There have certainly been instances when I felt the inverted LB thing wasn't working and our whole left side was dead and thought we should have used Tierney as an overlapping full back to at least help us generate chances from that side. This could have created more space for Saka on the other end.
Because Basic Ben White (much like Tierney) doesn't have the technical ability, short passing or dribbling of Zinchenko.
You can't just say hey flobaba go and play like Maradona.
Also Tierney lacks the composure required to play center back. He panics when isolated or put under pressure and is more of a boot it into touch type. Martinez is a great shout though. Lockdown defender, smart, and very good on the ball. Real shame he chose to go to Man U. But we can clearly see the sort of player we desire/need for the fullback role.
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Tierney isn’t a good enough footballer for our system. That’s the basic issue. He has a lot of gaps in his play. He plays like an old school winger. We need someone with midfield skills in the position. It’s a bad fit, and we need to let him go. The same way we let everyone else go.
So what happens to Pepe this summer? How much do you recon we’ll fetch?
lorddulaarsenal bag of chips. I don’t think he even has the halo of the rest of the team. Unlike Tavares, Balogun and others who are young and from the outside look like they would be reincorporated. Pepe just looks like bust. So nobody will pay.
I think the way we have to look at summer business is the total bill. Some guys will fetch a lot. Others not so much. What matters is selling the right players and raising a lot
I actually forgot Pepe was still our player. I'm assuming his loan has been a bit of a flop too?
Regardless of what people thought of his time here, quite insane how many bangers he scored in the time he played. Best finisher at the club?
(to Pepe haters, this isn't an attempt to start a discussion about his general play and how it doesn't fit our playing style)
He was insanely good in Ligue 1, we destroyed the poor chap.
Out of all of Arteta's cuts Pépé's treatment always seemed a bit arbitrary. I'd love a real explanation but it's probably just "slow to receive instruction and same position as Saka", or something vague ...
Everything I saw of Pepe demonstrated he had some real talent, just wasn't in the right setup to shine and has subsequently lost his confidence. Don't think anyone's to blame really other than maybe Sanellhi.
Burnwinter its weird because it definitely looked like he was working hard to try and get it. I guess he just didn't fit for some reason. Think he might have been in the Laca/Auba clique too which can't have helped. Would have been a nice option if it could have worked though, 20 minutes at the end of games to rest Saka would be welcome.
Real talent. I still like him but he’s probably not the best fit for us. If I were Newcastle, I’d be all over him
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Yeah I still like him too and sometimes miss him when thinking about this current group and its journey. He may have the exact same drawbacks that led ASM to be benched by Howe though.