Yeah Jacinta Price is the Indigenous equivalent of an "Uncle Tom" I guess, she's bought and paid for. Has received a lot of income from a conservative think-tank.

The Voice to Parliament has really been scuttled by the navel-gazing left this time though. Would've had a chance if there'd been a bit of solidarity.

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    clarence thomas is bought and paid for too, he gets flown around like an instagram thot going to dubai. the murdoch world is just too damn similar.

      It’s always interesting looking at the demographics behind votes like this. Is it true that other ethnic minorities also voted against this?Is that just because the campaigning was bad?

        Mirth Is it true that other ethnic minorities also voted against this?

        Australia's two larger non-European migrant communities, Indian and Chinese, tended to favour "yes" more than the wider population according to all the reporting I read.

          A few people I know from ethnic minorities told me quite vociferously they were voting No because why should one group of people get more of a say than them. They felt "really insulted".

          It either shows a lack of understanding or empathy, or negativity towards First Nations people here. I suspect a bit of both.

          Sadly the Yes campaign was run quite poorly, but also the conservative party here could have supported the proposal. Plenty of individuals from that side of politics voted Yes, but the leadership is run by a bunch of literal potato heads. I always think I couldn't dislike a politician more, and then they somehow find one.

          I think a lot of people wanted to vote No, and then used Jacinta Price as an excuse to say "oh look, even the Aboriginals don't want this". The irony is they use her to support their thinking, but she really wants a Treaty, and if you thought this referendum was defeated soundly just imagine how a vote on a Treaty would go.

          This country still really doesn't like Aboriginal people much, unless they win stuff at sport.

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          the same thing happens here in america. i know with legal immigration it's largely people who are privileged in their home countries so when they come to america it's "why can't they .... why should they ..."

            Meatwad It's complex but yeah first generation migrants are often politically conservative and "pull the drawbridge up behind them" as it's sometimes called.

            If you want the simplest possible interpretation of the No vote on this change, I'd say it's that Australia is a constitutively white supremacist state in the sense that exclusion and dispossession of its natural resources were two of the main reasons Federation happened. Its unconsidered political defaults are to reinforce that enclosure of value.

            a month later

            Riots in Ireland yesterday after supposedly an Algerian immigrant stabbed some kid and it all kicked off.

            I don't think a lot is known about the suspect, but reports says it's a male, and an Irish citizen for two decades. I don't know what stating his origin alone accomplishes. In context though, it is supposedly the suspect's origin that has caused rioting, injury, vandalism and anti immigration hate.

              KingslandBarge the racists were due to have a protest yesterday anyway. The stabbing happened, someone leaked the guys nationality to far right publication gript. Once that was out the far right groups started going into overdrive about starting a riot etc. They started it, the local gangs of scumbag youths who cause trouble in Dublin joined in and it got out of hand.

              This has been coming for ages. Its a combination of 2 problems that the government and the Gardai (our police) has ignored. Everyone on the left has been telling them since covid that the far right were a threat. The official line was that a "hands off" approach was best. A lot of times left wing counter protestors turned up to challenge these people bu the Gardai treat them worse than the fascists. Add to that violent attacks have been getting more and more serious over the summer with loads of anti-social behaviour going unchecked in Dublin and 2 came together last night to cause a load of trouble.

              4 months later

              Remember the one in the UK in 1999, still remember how eerie it was. All the birds and animals went quiet, felt like the whole country just stopped what it was doing for a bit and then went back to normal!

              15 days later

              Randomly saw this on my timeline, not exactly sure what to make of this.

              Something I need to read up on, the first comment says they like her Le Pen because they hate immigration from the Comoros.

              a month later

              The killing of another 300 or so Palestinians by the IDF this weekend in a military operation to rescue 4 Israeli hostages at Nuseirat refugee camp ... the headline reminder of the supposed rationale for all this carnage seems to make it even more sickening.

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                anti-semite

                i haven't decided who that applies to yet though. you for posting news critical of israel or the IDF for killing semites.

                  Is he taking inspiration from Rishi here? I'm not that clued up on French politics but this does not seem like a good idea!

                  Bad results also in Germany for the pro EU parties.

                  Meatwad It's bleak reading talking heads celebrate the murder of hundreds of civilians in a refugee camp, on top of the tens of thousands killed by this war, to rescue four hostages who could've been liberated by other means six months ago.

                  This war's been bringing the toll of other wars into a sharper relief. I'm getting a slightly better idea of what it would've felt like being an international onlooker to the carnage in Iraq or Afghanistan in the 00s, rather than the anti-war citizen of a country that has persistently supported US imperialism.