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jones

Mirth it doesn't break the top 500 because it's obviously not as egregious as the lies reported directly on the war on Gazans but I thought it worth mentioning.

Not like I've had a high opinion on Western media before but the way US UK and continental media have a accelerated in disgracing themselves on all matters Palestine since last year there's zero reason to assume this was done for any harmless reason. The CCTV footage of the Sde Teiman rapes has been released for days now and I'm yet to see even a single big outlet report on it.

Burnwinter

jones Economist has been a garbage magazine for 10+ years but this one is something else

The Economist was the rag publishing the ideological rationale for the "benevolent capitalist experiment" that caused the Great Famine in Ireland in the 19C, it's had some pretty fucking low lows before.

jones

Burnwinter oh yea there was that as well wasn't there. Not that far in the past because as we know stuff the great powers did during colonial times don't count any longer (Afghanistan 2001)

Burnwinter

Fucking disgusting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-10/more-than-100-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-air-strike/104209574

How many more of these headlines do we have to read? Another 100 plus civilians bombed to death for "harbouring militants".

If I were living like Palestinians in Gaza—even before this genocide—I'd probably be a militant.

When are the Magnitsky sanctions, severances of diplomatic relations, and broader state-sponsored economic sanctions and boycotts going to appear for this horror?

jones

Burnwinter

GooneriC

Yeh fuck Israel and their enablers ( that's means those paragons of virtue and human rights , the US and UK. )

Claudius

GooneriC a heart rendering but necessary war

JazzG

What is going on in South Korea?

Coombs

JazzG from what I've read, it's over a budget he sees as crippling to his administration and something like 20+ impeachment attempts led by the opposition that he claims is gumming up the works and holding the country hostage to a "legislative dictatorship". Accuses the opposition of being North Korea sympathizers and communists. Not sure how valid any of his claims are, and he's also massively unpopular.

JazzG

Sounds like the fall of Assad in Syria is imminent.

Coombs

Sigh. Sunni fundamentalist government incoming? It'd be a miracle if minority groups, who have been fighting this war as much as anyone, will get anything but more pain. Hope I'm wrong.

Burnwinter

Coombs Yep be interesting to see what the "pro-democracy revolution" looks like this time. They've been pretty terrible everywhere else.

awooga83

Unfortunately the trend of this period in time and maybe next decade a lot more instability and lots of geopolitical fall out ahead.

JazzG

This all happened a lot quicker than anyone thought, when Aleppo fell recently some thought they’d put up a fight but with Russia + Iran not backing Assad all folded quickly.

JazzG

Coombs

JazzG those dungeons will be full up again in no time.

MistaT

Plenty of info out there about Jolani who leads the rebel group. It’s true there is plenty to celebrate about Assad being removed from power. But as highlighted in many other nations the transition from a dictator does not guarantee a better path forward for a country and its people.

Jolani is well known by western media and appears open to Western scrutiny. He and his rebels may be seen “favorably” as they’re Sunni. I’m curios to see how they pull favors from Turkey (in exchange for a return of Syrian refugees) and how they balance internal vs external (Palestine/Israel) interests.

The less local and international panic you have and the more Jolani seems like a responsible actor instead of a toxic jihadi extremist, the easier his job will become. Is it totally sincere? Surely not," he said.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/syrias-jolani-from-jihadist-to-pragmatist/amp_articleshow/116098096.cms

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/abu-mohammad-al-jolani/

Burnwinter

The speed of HTS taking Damascus has caught me way off guard, and reminded me I know bugger all about Syria. After the way Assad and the Syrian Army stood down the FSA and ISIS through to 2015/16, albeit with brutal Russian strikes in Aleppo, I'm surprised how quickly this has all happened.

I'm encouraged that Jolani has directed no damage to public institutions. It'd be a bloody shame if Syria got carved up. Back in 2015 or so I read Patrick Cockburn's book on the rise of ISIS and at the time, what was evident was that the "reconstruction" of Iraq and the civil war in Syria had led to a lot of very, very poor Sunni farmers. Keeping economic activity going is vital.

Speaking of which, I read yesterday that 85% of livestock in the Gaza strip is dead.

MistaT

Burnwinter — it wasn’t just HTS though. As they began to grow in stature a number of other groups committed to attacks and demonstration of power.

Kurdish groups and other Syrian rebels have been involved, and smaller local militias/groups.

Lots of players involved.

Burnwinter

Coombs Michael Weiss is a massive arsehole so I'm not sure how that frame works for him

JazzG

Coombs Let’s hope they don’t fill them up with children like the previous regime did…

Coombs

JazzG I mean, al-Shar'a has already been up to purges and imprisonment of hundreds of people in his own groups. Doubt he'll have any qualms imprisoning children, especially if they are not religiously compatible. He's already said minorities will be fine...as long as they adjust their practices to align with his brand of Islam. I'm not sure there are any lesser evils, here.

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