Agree with that, it's little things he needs to improve on. Playing and training with Sanchez should help him.
Oxlade-Chamberlain getting ready for the new season
yuv wrote:Was/is there another Ox thread?
I figure it's time to talk about Alex.
I remember not so long ago a common view was that he was not all that, while others thought he's talented but far away.
Don't remember too many thinking he's WC quality bound, or even that he'll dispatch Theo.I always thought he's a massive talent (though I didn't know about his breakthrough). It does start looking like this is it.
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Like every other player, he was criticised for bad performances but i cannot remember it ever being a common view that he was not "all that" unless "all that" is WC (ie Alexis,Costa,Aguero-good).
At the moment, he is on track to be better than Theo and that's only a "maybe" as Theo is by far a more natural goal scorer.
Personally i prefer a winger to be more like Ox than Theo but not when our best striker is a blunt object like Giroud.
Always amusing going through threads like this and reading what posters think of a player when he is going through a bad spell!
Chambo is a star
He is getting there anyway.
He's been a lot better lately. His dribbling suddenly seems like it's got more thought and purpose behind it and he's actually hurting the opposition with it. I hope he keeps it up.
i cannot remember it ever being a common view that he was not "all that" unless "all that" is WC (ie Alexis,Costa,Aguero-good).
At the moment, he is on track to be better than Theo and that's only a "maybe" as Theo is by far a more natural goal scorer.
Personally i prefer a winger to be more like Ox than Theo but not when our best striker is a blunt object like Giroud.
Maybe it's "common view" that needs clarifying - I didn't mean "most" held that view, but it was fairly common, yes. Some insisted he was an invention, a hype, nothing more.
My view is that he is already better than Theo, though consistency taken to account, he may not be preferred.
Once Chambo adds a couple more goals to his game he'll be a comfortably better player than Theo.
Agree with that, Theo has already reached his ceiling, the Ox has a higher one.
yuv wrote:My view is that he is already better than Theo, though consistency taken to account, he may not be preferred.
Walcott is inconsistent too.
Chambo's the better player, but we can't afford him in any lineup where Giroud and Welbeck are at point.
Without end product at the sharp end, he's still more part of the problem than the solution. He doesn't defend much, create much, or score much. For all his nice play, he tends to lose his his head when he gets into dangerous positions. This problem is compounded by the fact he's a predominantly attacking player who tends to leave his fullback quite exposed.
I think it's something that will probably come with him (because it doesn't come with everyone), but until it does I think it's far, far too premature to heap on the plaudits.
Klaus wrote:yuv wrote:My view is that he is already better than Theo, though consistency taken to account, he may not be preferred.
Walcott is inconsistent too.
Chambo's the better player, but we can't afford him in any lineup where Giroud and Welbeck are at point.
Wellbecks decision making is worse than OC's.
Walcott is better than Chamberlain, who is far too inconsistent and lacks end product, but both should start. Welbeck is the one that should be dropped.
Kel Varnsen wrote:Walcott is better than Chamberlain, who is far too inconsistent and lacks end product, but both should start. Welbeck is the one that should be dropped.
yes. Even if it means Theo as CF.
asajoseph wrote:Without end product at the sharp end, he's still more part of the problem than the solution. He doesn't defend much, create much, or score much. For all his nice play, he tends to lose his his head when he gets into dangerous positions. This problem is compounded by the fact he's a predominantly attacking player who tends to leave his fullback quite exposed.
I think it's something that will probably come with him (because it doesn't come with everyone), but until it does I think it's far, far too premature to heap on the plaudits.
I agree with the defense bit, and that it may be premature. The "end product" is also a bit hard to argue with, but it should be taken in context, as the rest of the above, which to me is very harsh. Ox' improvement of late is very evident, his direct play is improving, and he was very unlucky not to see some "end product" yesterday. He takes on defenders for fun and drills down his side at will, contributing nicely to our offense. We've been crying for such play/er for ages - him and Alexis on both sides is almost too good to be true.
We should not be too stringent with the statistics, but read what is really happening: if Ox continues what we've been witnessing in the last games, it would be criminal to hold him back.
As for Theo or Welbeck up top - that's another issue (let's see how Theo is, depends on opposition, etc.).
What kind of world does a guy who can nearly break double figures for goals and assist outweigh Walcott? The oz is Aaron Lennon in disguise, totally over-rated player who has failed to live up to the hype.
Pure athlete, minor footballer.
Pure athlete, minor footballer? That sums up Theo's career.
Ox is the superior player.
This Theo chap is a myth.
Goal record doesn't lie. I must have missed the wenger memo that you must have that football is somehow not related to the number of goals scored, Ox's record is pathetic in that respect. He has 100 Ganesh for arsenal and where is he really? I don't rate any of his game outside running at pace at a player, the rest is totally shit or erratic. He is the Gael clichy of wingers.
Alfonso wrote:Pure athlete, minor footballer? That sums up Theo's career.
This old nonsense again.
Wow, that's harsh. Chamberlain's beginning to show his potential now, and will probably be a better player than Walcott one day. He's not there yet, though. Walcott's end product alone puts him ahead of the Ox.