Get Pat Rice some boots.
If we are considering Bridge, I would like to think it is a last resort only. We must have a good list of fullbacks, both young and old, given our movements in the summer.
Tracking jan tran winda rumours
Once upon a time we used to have so many young FBs waiting for their chance. Now we don't even have a single decent one. Shocking really
Did we? Like who?
Jenkinson and Gibbs isn't a bad selection either, to be fair.
In the last decade the only young full-backs we've had with genuine first team promise have been Cole, Clichy and Gibbs. And because of their staggered ages we've basically only had one good young full back on our books at any one time.
Jenko and Gibbs and really be counted as young fullbacks? I mean like those from the academy. Didn't we use to have V.Bronck and Sylvinho with Cole waiting down the line and also Lauren Eboue with Hoyte Gilbert or whatever shit down the line. I mean alot of them didn't turn out great but at least we have a proper young kid who is a fullback there waiting. Nowadays we have none.
van Bronckhorst was a winger when he played for us.
No he wasn't, he was a central mid
Well he mostly played instead of Ljungberg or Pires.
But he was a cm. that's also where he played at rangers
But not for us.
Yes for us
Except he really wasn´t Dules.
vbh did play cm in a handful of games, but he was primarily a wingback here.
His primary role was cm then he was a utility. Don't think he was ever a flying winger
I don't remember him as a wide left player all that much. More of a utility man that played a bit of left back, a bit less at centre midfielder, and hardly any wide left.
I think he came as a bit of a utility midfielder, but most of his games were at left back, mainly cos he got injured and we bought Edu and then Gilberto for centre mid, and Sylvinho's passport turned out to be fake, leaving us with only a 20 year old Ashley Cole.
5 days later
We've got a fight on our hands to keep Rosicky 
According to this rumour Olympiakos are chasing him.
It might be unfair of me but I can only see Rosicky as being useful if we are about 3-0 up in a game with 20 minutes to go.
At that stage he's effective in slowing play down and keeping the ball though he does also cause a few headaches in defence.
He should not start any game against teams that sit deep and defend in droves.
He's exactly what we need though.
Liverpool are set to spend big again for.....Darren Bent.
Really?
Apart from that Spurs time that he probably wishes to forget he's been a reliable striker.
They'd have to pay a silly price for him though.
Makes no sense whatsoever fo Milan to let Pato go, so I call bullshit on this one.
Don't know.
Has he been injured or is there something up with him?
He seems to have only played 8 games this season, scored just the one goal.
Maybe he wants out?
y va marquer wrote:We've got a fight on our hands to keep Rosicky
According to this rumour Olympiakos are chasing him.
y va marquer wrote:It might be unfair of me but I can only see Rosicky as being useful if we are about 3-0 up in a game with 20 minutes to go.
At that stage he's effective in slowing play down and keeping the ball though he does also cause a few headaches in defence.He should not start any game against teams that sit deep and defend in droves.
It's not unfair it's spot on.
Biggus wrote:y va marquer wrote:It might be unfair of me but I can only see Rosicky as being useful if we are about 3-0 up in a game with 20 minutes to go.
At that stage he's effective in slowing play down and keeping the ball though he does also cause a few headaches in defence.He should not start any game against teams that sit deep and defend in droves.
It's not unfair it's spot on.
Newcastle. :gah:
Crikey, how could I have forgotten his performance that sparked an Interpol investigation.
We were 4-0 up in that one though
y va marquer wrote:Don't know.
Has he been injured or is there something up with him?
He seems to have only played 8 games this season, scored just the one goal.
Maybe he wants out?
I think he wants out. I read an article about it in the Gazzetta earlier this week and started to think that there might be something to this story.
To answer the question though: Yeah, Pato was was injured for a spell during the fall. But it's also clear that Allegri doesn't rate him much. He was more or less fourth choice behind Ibrahimovic, Cassano and Robinho earlier this season. Since Cassano's heart surgery he's been on the bench but he doesn't get many opportunities. I think he's started four league games.
If Milan sign Tevez I think there's a possibility that Pato will be allowed to leave, provided someone is ready to pay the fee. I really didn't think they would get rid of him just a few weeks ago but the signals are very different at the moment. Yesterday Pato went out and (sort of) criticised Allegri in the local papers. Can't see any reason for ut unless he wants to provoke some kind of reaction. The more likely scenario is that he stays put for the time being though. He might be allowed to leave in the summer if his situation doesn't improve, but it's still complicated. He's close to Milan on several levels. His fiancee is Silvio Berlusconi's daughter, for instance, and she's also a board member at the club (and, apparently, pregnant with his child).
The whole Pato - Berlusconi affair just seems negligent, but expect a deviant like Silvio to fail to regulate that relationship. How does a player date his boss? It's too messy. He's too closely tied to the club now for rational decisions to be made.
I would love Pato here. He's lost his way a little due to injury but when he was healthy two seasons ago, he was 2nd only to Balotelli as an exciting young talent in Serie A.
Klaus wrote:y va marquer wrote:Don't know.
Has he been injured or is there something up with him?
He seems to have only played 8 games this season, scored just the one goal.
Maybe he wants out?I think he wants out. I read an article about it in the Gazzetta earlier this week and started to think that there might be something to this story.
To answer the question though: Yeah, Pato was was injured for a spell during the fall. But it's also clear that Allegri doesn't rate him much. He was more or less fourth choice behind Ibrahimovic, Cassano and Robinho earlier this season. Since Cassano's heart surgery he's been on the bench but he doesn't get many opportunities. I think he's started four league games.
If Milan sign Tevez I think there's a possibility that Pato will be allowed to leave, provided someone is ready to pay the fee. I really didn't think they would get rid of him just a few weeks ago but the signals are very different at the moment. Yesterday Pato went out and (sort of) criticised Allegri in the local papers. Can't see any reason for ut unless he wants to provoke some kind of reaction. The more likely scenario is that he stays put for the time being though. He might be allowed to leave in the summer if his situation doesn't improve, but it's still complicated. He's close to Milan on several levels. His fiancee is Silvio Berlusconi's daughter, for instance, and she's also a board member at the club (and, apparently, pregnant with his child).
Thanks Klaus, interesting stuff, wasn't aware of any of that detail.
We're not going to sign him anyway but I think if we were going to spend the kind of money that he'd command I'd go for Jovetic.
Seems a more reliable option.
Oh, absolutely. Jovetic is a terrific footballer. Pato is a bit more run and gun. Great close control and finish (which we could use at the moment) but he's not much of a playmaker. That's why he's been struggling a bit at Milan ever since they started to play him out wide. Well, it's not the only reason, but it's one of them. Think Jovetic would offer us more. The question is whether Fiorentina will let him go.
Lol how is jovetic a more reliable option?
He was skank against England
Not sure how much I trust that site Nela, they're quoting English media sources but I've not seen anything on this story anywhere else today.
Bit unfair to judge Jovetic on just a couple of games against England Dula.
He's the Montenegrian Messi
He's has been better than Pato this season in Serie A this season though.
His performance against Atlanta a few weeks ago was top class.
Ran the attack and scored the winning goal.
Not knocking Pato's talent, but he's not in good form and clearly comes with baggage.
Would not fret about us signing Jovetic anyway as he says he's happy to stay in Italy, unless Chelsea money can convince him that he's not.
I think jovetic is very talented but he's not a clever clever player we need. Pato has much more class about his play. Pato would also fit so nicely into our set up
Maybe.
Arsene would possibly be willing to investigate some kind of cut-price loan deal.
Nela wrote:According to this site., we've bid 14 million for Vargas.
Would be a top addition
Apparently there's a fair chance Arsh will be gone in Jan. Hope so.
You'd think he'd press for a move to get game time before the euros