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This 5: Arsenal, Liverpool, City

RocktheCasbah

I must say, it seems a bit mad to talk about a game in week 11 being as "must win", but, if we do beat Sunderland the pressure on both City and Liverpool to win at the weekend will be huge. Conversely, were we to do anything but take the maximum, a win for one of them puts them right back in it just before the international break and then those fixtures against Spurs and Chelsea. Imagine the noise!

So, no, not a "must win" in the strictest sense, but as close to it as makes no difference. We need to keep blocking out the sun for everyone.

JazzG

RocktheCasbah Agreed, also both those teams are having serious teething issues. We need to make sure that we take full advantage of this because later in the season they might get it right and by that point you want to be ideally out of reach but if not have a comfortable margin which puts the pressure on them.

Coombs

Sicario2 must win when the pressure is relatively low

Can't be low-pressure and must-win simultaneously.

Burnwinter

Sure I'd favour City dropping points all else being equal, but either way it'll be a luxury to spectate the two clubs duking it out, knowing we're safe at the top of the table for at least one week longer no matter our results.

RowJimmy

"Must win" at this point in the season is nonsense.
The idea that we "must win" to take advantage of rivals dropping points when if they won we "must win" in order not to fall behind drives me nuts.

The games are all worth 3 points.

Qwiss

I think calling this a "must win" just means every games a must win and then the term loses all meaning.

Big Willie

I know he's just attempting some mind games but deep down you know this is actually playing on his mind and stressing him out. Win the next 3 or 4 and and Liverpool and City will really be feeling they have no chance.

Sicario2

When the stars align, the stars align

samthegooner

I understand why folks are nervous about City and Liverpool still in this race but from what I have seen this season, I just don't really feel the same. City has relied on Haaland to bail them out all season and while I don't think it's necessarily an unsustainable strategy, their defense looks terrible. I personally thought that this weekend's result was due more to Iraola being naive and playing a suicidal high line against Haaland than City looking anywhere near to their form from the last several years. Similarly, I thought Emery set Villa up terribly to deal with that Liverpool team. We've seen time and time again that they are vulnerable to long balls and fast transitions, yet Emery set them up to do the exact opposite and played right into Liverpool's hands.

Our attacking injuries are piling up, which does concern me, but both the form of both of our rivals does not.

Sicario2

Meatwad

everyone should be nervous, the two teams chasing us have won it so they know how to get it done. our players and coaches know how to finish 2nd until they prove otherwise.

Sicario2

Meatwad we have multiple players that have won league titles in the squad including the prem. No need to add unnecessary pressure.

Big Willie

Sicario2 No need to add unnecessary pressure.

At least until the next must win game that is.

Sicario2

Big Willie every game is ‘must win’ - that’s the mindset before every game

Qwiss

Big Willie well we didn't win this must win, what happens now?

Burnwinter

Qwiss We must give up, of course! But the question, comrade, is on what must we give up?

As comrade @Sicario2 has helpfully framed the correct GAMP (M-L)* party line on "must win" matches, following our earlier fruitful theoretical discussion:

Sicario2 every game is ‘must win’ - that’s the mindset before every game

Sicario2 This is a long season and you need to have the heart for a title challenge.

As can be seen, it is on the bourgeois illusions of "words having meanings" and "necessities being necessary" that we must give up. Only by way of this relinquishment can the fan class achieve "title consciousness".

* Glorious Arsenal Maoist Party (Minimise-Lossist)

Sicario2

Btw I see some Arsenal fans panic after this weekend. This is a long season and you need to have the heart for a title challenge. When it’s all said and done we will win it this season. Fuck Man City.

banduan

It's Arsenal v Citeh now

Meatwad

i know there are a lot of premier league managers that have to feel some type of way that this oaf got a winner's medal in his first season.

WTF? so the goals don't count?

Burnwinter

Meatwad Absolutely. He was the luckiest winner in ages, since Ranieri at least. He's annoying and it's good to see him suffering.

They're now sitting behind United and the scum. With one more bad result they'll be in the bottom half of the table ... and Forest do have the firepower to hurt them after the break. Their summer window was a failure, and Salah and Van Dijk look ready to check out. If Slot hadn't won a title he'd be on the road to being sacked by Christmas.

Bring on Hell.

QuincyAbeyie

Meatwad deleted post, what did it say?

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