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Eze

TambourineMan

Wouldn’t be happy with any of that. We’ve spent £200m and for that outlay should have landed a starting-quality LW, ST, and DM. Those three spots should’ve been absolute priorities. We’ve only nailed down two, and in classic Arsenal fashion, we’ve fallen one short - and as always it’s going to cost us again.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

TambourineMan so far, agreed. I don't see us winning the league without the elusive LW signing.

Gazza M

Mirth you left one conspicuous name off that list

Mirth

Gazza M fair. I would rather Eze than Madueke too.

Klaus

Would have taken Eze over Madueke too. I like Martinelli though and I thought he had a very, very good game against Athletic. I'll say this for Arteta: I think Marty and Madueke are more in the style of what you need if you wanna play a proper 4-2-3-1 with straighter lines and more focus on the attack.

Let's just see what happens over the next month or two, shall we? I think we're underrating the players we already have. My opinion from the get go has been that Gyökeres will raise the floor massively due to the space and opportunity he creates for others, in addition to raising the ceiling with his own end product. Hard to think of a better forward profile to shift this team into a higher gear.

lorddulaarsenal

Klaus Zubimendi will be instrumental in that shift too.

We’ve bought stunningly well this summer

Don Pacifico

For all my anxiety over our left side, thought this week's Arsecast Extra made an interesting point that if we do in fact become a more transitional side (as we were in 22/23) it will fit better with Martinelli's strengths so may help precipitate a return to form. Definitely think there's something to be said for that.

Big Willie

Don Pacifico For all my anxiety over our left side, thought this week's Arsecast Extra made an interesting point that if we do in fact become a more transitional side (as we were in 22/23) it will fit better with Martinelli's strengths so may help precipitate a return to form. Definitely think there's something to be said for that.

Doesn't matter which style of play or who we play next to him, Nelli isn't gonna do anything. He's shit.

Klaus

lorddulaarsenal Yep those two are absolute top signings for me. Getting one of them would have constituted a great window on their own. Getting both is the kind of one-two punch that changes your trophy luck.

flobaba

Big Willie knew you'd come around eventually BW

JazzG

awooga83

JazzG so ridiculous, we just wanted to let you know that right now we aren't signing you.

JazzG

awooga83 Not ridiculous, the player and his camp probably want an indication from Arsenal as to where they stand. Have they decided against it or is it worth them waiting for them.

The board are not going to sanction it without sales and the club are saying they want to do the deal but to bare with them. This could be a bluff by the club to try and drive the price down or agree more favourable payment structure. The sales will probably happen but when you get into August every club is happy to drag things out so might be late in the window. The player and his camp will need to make a decision on whether they want to wait or whether they don't let other good offers slip by.

Burnwinter

TambourineMan You’ve got quite the high opinion of yourself if you think a simple follow-up on a forum is some grand vendetta.

Look, man ... the Dumas reference was drawing attention to the mismatch between your vengeful comments ("resident negotiation experts", "noncommittal bullshit" etc) and their trivial context. No need to mug me off explaining my own point to me.

TambourineMan In that case, would you agree that choosing Madueke over Eze was a poor use of resources? Because your reply here is long but still dodges a straight yes-or-no.

There hasn't been such a choice to make. That's something you've made up. You don't get "straight yes-or-no" answers to questions you can't ground better than that.

But sure, for the sake of it, let's take your perspective.

What would "choosing Eze" have meant by now? Skipping our chance with Madueke during the CWC in order to trigger Eze's release clause now after the Charity Shield, probably signing Eze on £150–200k per week.

So we'd have Martinelli, Eze and Trossard stacked on the left and no Saka backup.

We'd have benched Martinelli even though he's in decent form and Gyökeres arriving probably improves his odds, we'd have no Saka deputy more grown than Nwaneri and Dowman, and there would be a little more downward pressure on Trossard's value.

Seems to me if this is how it had gone you'd just be questioning the issues on the right instead.

Now for the real "straight yes-or-no" answers ...

No, Madueke and Eze wasn't and isn't an either-or. No, our future transfers are not restricted by contrived and masturbatory dilemmas between signings that aren't equivalent. Yes, Madueke looks like excellent value. No, there's no evidence Arsenal is incompetent.

Burnwinter

TambourineMan Age
23 vs 27 - yes, I can Google DOBs too. Nothing insightful here.

If you can Google facts, may I suggest thinking with them?

Funny the tweet @JazzG just posted mentions two issues I also mentioned: the problem of settling the over-stacked left and the question of resale value.

I've just read through the rest of your objections. Good job getting through all that, but since you've only declared repeatedly "age, athleticism, the position a player plays, his football, bah humbug, these aren't relevant", it's a farcical effort.

Then king hits land such as "it's accounting language, not football reasoning". What's this, does a transfer discussion that naturally inclines to money matters have to use some magic football-only logic you just made up?

With every value we could share so formally ruled out, I can't see any remaining basis for dialogue. Good luck processing your negative feelings about the window, just think how fucking hilarious it'll be if we do sign Eze now!

Sicario2

JazzG a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush unfortunately for us

awooga83

JazzG the reason I say is ridiculous it gives no certainty, yeah we are interested but we are only doing something if these other things come off. So pretty uncertain for Eze it doesn't really change anything for him. Arsenal might come in but that would be against another club with an actual offer if they came about.

Expressing an intention is fine but lots of other things have to go through to be able to do that, if he wants to move this season that probably isn't enough unless our situation changes very soon.

Coombs

Sicario2 you mean fortunately. We actually have the bird in hand.

JazzG

Sicario2 The window has gone beyond your expectations, we just need to be patient for this last one. It might not happen but I think the club are trying to make it happen.

Sounds like Palace are holding firm on their valuation which is fine but they run the risk of losing out on a replacement if they aren't more flexible.

awooga83 His people are probably looking for some kind of indication whether we are still in the race or not and we've been honest with what our position is. Like I said earlier it is up to him to decide whether he wants to wait to see if we can get ourselves into a position or look at the options available to him. He'd be wise not to close any door.

Klaus

The nice thing about Spurs being the other club in for him is, y'know, that it's Spurs. It's not like Eze is gonna sweat over having to delay things a few weeks. What are they gonna do, try for a better player?? They're the 17th fucking best team in England. They need someone like Eze a lot more than he needs them.

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