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Viktor Gyokeres

Segway

Qwiss Neutrals are obsessed with him and desperate for him to flop. Bizarre really.

Segway

Speedster I get why you would have preferred another more technical striker but basing your opinion on "no one wanted him except Berta" is a strange reasoning.

Speedster

Segway

It's was out to me that the people who know wanted him. I just said lots of top football people clearly didn't which is true.

It's not why I did or didn't want him.

Don Pacifico

Klaus He also scored a hattrick against this particular team

I think there are valid points on both sides of this discussion but let's not present this fact as more than it was - two of those goals were pens and he missed a one-on-one.

Klaus

Don Pacifico So you're saying he should have had 4 goals; fine.

Don Pacifico

Klaus I'm saying 'he scored a hat trick against Man City' as a proof point of his effectiveness against the biggest teams is misleading.

Whilst we're at it, City also had Rico Lewis and Simpson Pusey covering defence on Gyokeres' favoured side.

Klaus

Don Pacifico Who the fuck cares honestly? When is a team ever full strength? We're missing our two biggest key players right now, today, and I bet no one's going to even bring it up in the final analysis.

Haaland missed a penalty in that game for what it's worth that could have swung it in their favor. It's not easy to step up on these occasions.

Rohit

Slid it perfectly to Trossard, a pass any number 10 would be proud of, but Leo just didn't have the legs to beat anyone. The Madueke chance too came from an excellent first time lay off which opened up the field for Rice. To make him effective the ball has to go early to him.

Don Pacifico

Klaus that's all fine and I'm not disputing the core of what you've said there. But as I said, 'hat trick against Man City' is misleading and not sufficient proof of anything.

Kel Varnsen

Looks terrible. Would rather have Trossard, Merino or Martinelli up front.

Klaus

Don Pacifico Unless he didn't actually score three goals it's not misleading in the slightest. Get over it Don.

tazmania

He looks so limited as a footballer right now. He's trying hard but it's like his body isn't up to it or he's just not good enough to match our pace

Burnwinter

tazmania His lack of foot speed versus Ake was a worry a couple of times. We knew Premier League defenders would be far faster than Portugal, but we do need Gyökeres to be able to get on the break and finish if he's going to fulfil his expected function.

Don Pacifico

Klaus it is.

And you know it

🤷🏻‍♂️

tazmania

Burnwinter
I believe he'll come good btw. He's bedding in and will come good.
If Kai wasn't injured, he'd give him some relief but it is what it is

Doc

Guy is basic AF... Technique was obvious after watch him for 5 seconds even though some thought it won't matter somehow.... but even his movement has been lackluster and I don't get how someone so jacked can get pushed around so easy.. hopefully we will see big improvements in those area but ngl, looking fwd to Kai's return. Nelli at CFanyone?

Lukazan

Not writing him off just yet and I thought he did some things well today but there are some concerns there for sure. Definitely still able to be effective for us even if the flaws can't change. We will see.

Doesn't seem half as strong as he should be considering his size though. It's strange.

Gazza M

Lukazan I thought he looked physically strong today. shrugged his marker and laid it off more than once. the worry is we're not doing anything with him in transitions. we're playing the exact same way as last season

DiabyKungFu

I think he looks totally fine relative to the standards of what a backup should be for us which was basically my expectation for him from the start. Was getting a 27 year old backup level player at this position really a big need? I guess that's the question. It's good "depth", though.

DiabyKungFu

Gazza M the worry is we're not doing anything with him in transitions.

We keep playing balls to him into space and he keeps getting beaten to the ball by the centerbacks. Despite his big glamor muscles, he's not really a notably powerful athlete relative to the standards of the Premier League.

Mirth

He was ok. I can't judge him in a setup like this.

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