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Arteta - one more year and that’s it

daredevil

It feels like this club has been put on hormone blockers which prevents it from pursuing/landing any top drawer attacking talent.

Either that, or we've made our bed with Jesus, Trossard, Havertz and Martinelli and there isn't any space without selling them.

RowJimmy

What I suspect happened last year was that we had valuations for the various targets and weren't willing to go beyond them to force the issue. Which is different from not having the money. (Just my opinion.)

Don Pacifico

Sicario2 it doesn't change anything. There's no way Henry saying those things is a net positive on our ability to win stuff.

Sicario2

Don Pacifico I think it can be motivational if Arteta uses it right.

When one of your own is a hater then you simply have to win next year, it’s now non-negotiable.

Claudius

Don Pacifico Henry doesn't need to be an Arsenal fan in the media. He needs to be a good analyst - and leverage his knowledge of and affinity to the club to add perspectives and hypotheses that other analysts can't. It feels like he is doing that, and I actually think it is helpful to have a sympathetic but critical voice.

What is not helpful is guys like Neville and Carragher who routinely attack us and position us an arch-villain. That I can do without.

Don Pacifico

Sicario2 I mean, it definitely didn't help ETH or any of his predecessors.

Obviously not entirely responsible for United's shit show but definitely helped it become a more pressurised job.

I'm also not convinced Arteta needs further motivation. Seems pretty self-motivated already and he's done a good job of infusing that hunger into the team.

Don Pacifico

Claudius nah. The 'noise' helps sow division in the fans and discontent in the club.

We've got enough detractors in the media, we don't need any more.

Claudius

Don Pacifico Fans need to put on their thinking caps. I generally support Arteta as you guys have seen around here, but I think it is important to have well-considered positions on what he and the rest of the organisation can do better. If people can't handle the truth, then that's their problem.

Don Pacifico

Claudius as I said, it's not about truth. I think most fans are aware that things need to improve, even if they are supportive of Arteta and the club. It's about unnecessary pressure and distractions.

Also, I don't need Henry or any other ex-player to inform my opinion. There's plenty of healthy discourse from neutral sources to provoke consideration.

RocktheCasbah

Sicario2 I think we're all agreed Arteta needs to win something next season, it kind of follows he needs to be looking like he's gonna win something by Christmas.

I would still harbour doubts about removing a coach who gets us to a high 80s- 90+ points total, but I do also understand we need to get a big one over the line at some point.

awooga83

Don Pacifico unsurprisingly my view isn't really harsh as others because I do agree with what he's said. But I think elite sports starts do attribute significance to winning that's what drives them to be at the top of their game so him having those views I don't think it's that usual. The people at the top of any sport are unlikely to view being amongst the top contenders as the outcome they seek, that's what competitive sport is about

Don Pacifico

awooga83 as I said, I'm not disputing the opinion. Think it's perfectly reasonable even if I don't fully agree with it.

The issue is someone strongly associated with us, publicly shitting on the people currently working at the club. I don't think it does anything to improve the situation.

Dom

The only interesting part of Henry's appearance was a casual comment that went a bit unnoticed.

I'm paraphrasing so I don't have to give Gary Neville an extra click:
"Under Guardiola, we finished a match and I would think: is that it? We could play another half"

I wonder why! 💉 💉

Claudius

Dom Saw an interview when Evra suggested similar about United. He said practices were so intense, people crunching into tackles and getting into fights. The matches were a walk in the park in comparison

Dom

That's more to do with the personality of the players right? Lots of foreign Arsenal players in the late-90s and early-2000s have spoken about how intense and physical the back four and Martin Keown were in training, and how they used training sessions to give our new fancy dans the same treatment they'd get at Bolton or Wimbledon.

Burnwinter

To be fair to the current crop, Big Gabi's response to Merino getting signed was to say "Think you're Arsenal quality? Let's see how Arsenal quality you are with a broken shoulder tough guy"

Claudius

Burnwinter I’d love to see the Ozil team practice against the current lot. They’d be gassed after 10 minutes.

Claudius

This was a fun interview. Like what he says about needing to be good on the ball as a striker.

Burnwinter

Henry talks about football like Musashi talks about swordplay. This tells you exactly why he was born to be a killer or an artist, not a manager.

lorddulaarsenal

Arteta is the best manager in Europe. Folk don’t realise just how good we are yet we aren’t his finished article.

Basically we will be at an elite level all the while he is at the helm. Major accomplishments will eventually be achieved. Granted you need the rub of the green at times, but even repeating our current level season over season and the law of probability indicates trophies will be secured.

For me this is the most enthused I’ve been as a fan since the early days of Wenger

Sicario2

lorddulaarsenal how can he be the best manager in Europe when he’s lost like his last 8 semi finals and not got us to a final for 5 years?

Luis Enrique is the best manager in Europe mate.

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