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  • Arsenal v Man Utd Jan 12th 3 PM KO - FA Cup 3rd round

Qwiss We went out in the 3rd round 3 times I think, and 2 times in the 4th. Against Liverpool and United at home I remember. The other 3 were Forest, Sotton and City.
So that would make it what? 5 L's and 2 wins lol

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    Second slide, lol.

    Claudius and Arteta would not target that type of player he just lucked out he's got such an elite player who can perform no matter how much his manager inhibits him. But most players and squads need more then that but Arteta does not seem capable of doing it

    Qwiss and yet the team that did win it wasn't Arteta's that was the team he was lumbered with that he needed all the backing to get away from.

      Pepe LeFrits — you can’t let Arteta go when we’re second in the league, and in the CL.

      But I do think you can demand changes to how we’re playing, and that of there isn’t progress (attacking wise and in CL performance) by end of season then a hard decision may come to effect.

      Very disappointing but not really surprising for me. Some of our major limitations were on display. The investment on attacking personnel has been shown up as falling massively short. Jesus has never been a good enough foward consistently, Havertz has always been unreliable in big monments and Martinelli does not look to be a good offensive winger anymore. All of this has to be on Arteta, it's his team.

      I think we've reached a ceiling for this team and we need changes to recruitment and playing style. I don't know if Arteta is capable of it but we need to ask that question sooner rather then later in case we need to move on beyond him if he's not able to adapt.

      This January is very similar to our previous recent seasons bar the last 2, exiting most competitions just at the year turns. We need to look at where we are and make serious review of where we want to be and how wet get there and Arteta needs to get some challenge and less of the free reign, he's had that and it hasn't worked to get us where we want to be.

      This feels like Arteta’s first real crisis. A genuine crisis in which his approach, tactics and strategy is under the microscope. Which admittedly does feel ridiculous considering we are second, but I think all the stats that have been trotted out this season to support our position just do not stack up to the eye test in what we’re seeing week in week out of Arteta and the team.

      Not many manager’s survive that sort of crisis but Arteta has quite a lot of clout in the bank with the fanbase and is obviously well tight with the board, so we’re nowhere near his job being in question. But what a job he’s given himself.

      A few concerns of mine from the game:

      • Partey should have been in CM so he could shoot from the 18. We were regularly creating that opportunity but wasting it on Jorginho, Timber and Odegaard.
      • Surely we can find use in a quick and offensively inclined player like Tierney vs a ten man team. He came on way too late, and quickly highlighted how regimented we are as others couldn’t build on his strengths.
      • We need to move Rice back to 6 or alongside someone in a two man CM. We’re at risk of wasting a record fee and a huge talent by shoe horning him into a position he’s not fit for.

        MistaT I think he saved Partey for the next two games. Villa and spurs. lol

          RocktheCasbah Put it this way, with him out there we'd have won today. And not just cause he would have taken and scored the penalty. He'd have scored a goal from open play too. Man U are diabolical.

          MistaT Partey should have been in CM so he could shoot from the 18. We were regularly creating that opportunity but wasting it on Jorginho, Timber and Odegaard.

          The last person on this team I want having a shot from the 18 yard line is Thomas ‘Row Z’ Partey.

            No need to worry guys, we won the xG battle again!

              FEBravo and here I was getting all worried. Phew!

              We sold ESR, Nketiah, Vieira last summer and signed Merino and Calafiori. Whatever you think of the quality of those players it's 3 attacking players for 2 defensive players.

                Qwiss it was basically throwing in the towel, like Kroenke told Edu to make some headroom on PSR and tread water for a year, maybe more.

                  Coombs I'm convinced the Kroenkes justed us to be solidly a CL team and don't really care beyond that. They want us to maintain our profile for their next attempt at a super league