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  • Arsenal v Man Utd Jan 12th 3 PM KO - FA Cup 3rd round

David Moyes in disguise, introducing Mikel Arteta

Going into work tomorrow is going to be difficult. Imagine losing to these punks who are playing with ten. We need to look beyond Arteta. Even if we try for an attacker he isn't coming here to play this kind of football.

Claudius this has been coming for a while.

Thing is United are shit. This is so so bad

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    Coombs Jorginho looked like he wa carrying a knock

      Coombs I mean, it looked to me like Jorge had a groin injury. There's a lot you can throw at Arteta right now, but I'm not sure this is it.

        lorddulaarsenal we're worse. We struggled to attack and even defend against a 10 man United

        RocktheCasbah Bukayo is a superstar. Which nobody else on this team really is. Makes a massive difference to have a player who can bend the game to his will.

        Hope Kroenke is focused on this and not the Vikings game

          This was pathetic. We’re a man up, chasing a goal, and at most one or two players in the box when we attack. The way they all stand at the edge of the box it’s clearly by instruction. Which I guess there could be a point to but then not by firing endless crosses. Tierney had a great ball but no one there. Odegaard a few too.

          And don’t get me started on Havertz. That’s why we used to laugh at him at Chelsea, can’t finish. At least sterling was trying to make things happen by dribbling. That’s why Arteta doesn’t play him, that’s not the plan but guess he had no choice today.

          And that was the worse penalty shootout performance by a keeper since Shilton back in whatever that World Cup was.

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          RocktheCasbah what's really frustrating me right now is that when Odegaard was out Saka carried us. Yet with Saka out Ode has disappeared. I thought if we had one of them we'd be ok.

          Chaps, I’m actually in a state of shock.

            QuincyAbeyie can't believe I went to work early today just so I could leave home in time to watch this shower.

            QuincyAbeyie I mean those of you without your head in the clouds should have seen this coming. I, on the other hand, am mortified. 😱

            My only saving grace tonight is thank fuck I didn't get tickets.

            Maguire and De Ligt are slow and dopey yet we made them look like defensive titans. Arteta's lost without Saka overproducing.

            Claudius should have carried it a little further. Tierney coming in is what makes no sense, though.

              The game feels like it had 3 phases
              Phase 1: we are just doing our control ball and they score.
              Phase 2: we are a man up and start attacking. Create a boat load of chances that Division 2 players should’ve finished.
              Phase 3: with no useful subs, back to control ball and crosses.

              Phase 1 and 3 we’ve seen a lot of. That Phase 2 has really annoyed me.

              Let's look at the positives, gunnerblog and the rest of the chumps from the athletic get some needed job security, the PR machine will work overtime for the next few months.

              Also Don Robbie gonna get a new house...I bet it's been a bad few years for AFTV

              Claudius this is just a natural continuation of our decisions since last January, when we decided that winning the league isn't worth the money.

              Spurs on Wednesday. Losing manager is going to be destroyed whatever way it goes.

                Qwiss Spurs on Wednesday. Losing manager is going to be destroyed whatever way it goes

                Lose against a big rival, lose two more players to injury, and subject the squad to 120 minutes before NLD. This is twilight zone shit.

                What's our record in Ws vs Ls in the FA cup since we won it?

                  Qwiss We went out in the 3rd round 3 times I think, and 2 times in the 4th. Against Liverpool and United at home I remember. The other 3 were Forest, Sotton and City.
                  So that would make it what? 5 L's and 2 wins lol

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                    Second slide, lol.

                    Claudius and Arteta would not target that type of player he just lucked out he's got such an elite player who can perform no matter how much his manager inhibits him. But most players and squads need more then that but Arteta does not seem capable of doing it

                    Qwiss and yet the team that did win it wasn't Arteta's that was the team he was lumbered with that he needed all the backing to get away from.

                      Pepe LeFrits — you can’t let Arteta go when we’re second in the league, and in the CL.

                      But I do think you can demand changes to how we’re playing, and that of there isn’t progress (attacking wise and in CL performance) by end of season then a hard decision may come to effect.

                      Very disappointing but not really surprising for me. Some of our major limitations were on display. The investment on attacking personnel has been shown up as falling massively short. Jesus has never been a good enough foward consistently, Havertz has always been unreliable in big monments and Martinelli does not look to be a good offensive winger anymore. All of this has to be on Arteta, it's his team.

                      I think we've reached a ceiling for this team and we need changes to recruitment and playing style. I don't know if Arteta is capable of it but we need to ask that question sooner rather then later in case we need to move on beyond him if he's not able to adapt.

                      This January is very similar to our previous recent seasons bar the last 2, exiting most competitions just at the year turns. We need to look at where we are and make serious review of where we want to be and how wet get there and Arteta needs to get some challenge and less of the free reign, he's had that and it hasn't worked to get us where we want to be.