I think a retry when stepping off the line is more to the GK's benefit than having your shot counted as a miss is to the shooter's benefit, yes. That's what I've been trying to say all along.
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QuincyAbeyie I’m not following. He’s saved the ball. It didn’t go into the net. How is to his benefit? He’s being punished for a jump start that contributes to a save. If the kick is not re-taken, that goalie falsely earns a save. A retake clearly punishes a keeper, and is to the penalty taker’s benefit.
I'm saying the GK is punished less severely for cheating than the shooter because the GK's punishment leaves him with a chance of saving while the shooter's punishment leaves him with no chance of scoring. This isn't even my opinion, it's just how it is.
QuincyAbeyie the goalie never gets to retry anything. It's always the taker. The punishment for illegally saving a penalty is to face...a penalty. That's harsh enough.
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Yellow for goalie would be a better balancer.
Ultimately I think this is a one-off situation (an accidental double touch that results in the ball going in).
I do think it points to one of the (many) general issues with VAR - the infraction needs to be clearly visible, or clearly and quickly established by the technology (as is the case for goal line and semi-automated offsides, also in-out in tennis, etc.) or else no call. Something where we're looking at the slow-mo and arguing about whether it can be seen or not is not what we want. But this particular case is unlikely to happen again.
The relative advantage is the chance to correct his fuck-up that the shooter doesn't get.
QuincyAbeyie it's not relative, and it's not an advantage
Coombs the goalie generally has an advantage committing as early as he can, if he overcommits his punishment is to simply go again. In relation to the taker's punishment on infraction that's definitely an advantage.
Pen is just a 70% chance btw I think, in a shootout that probably drops even further.
Qwiss see the discussion with @Burnwinter above. The balance is already with the attacker, and combined with the increased athleticism and efficacy of compact defending, the risk is that teams play for the set piece too much.
Coombs he doesn't get punished with a penalty, he already faced one and tried to circumvent the normal distance he should keep between him and ball.
It's just a repeat compared to a guy slipping who gets his attempt chalked off it's a very mild punishment, moral hazard even when you consider that a skied pen + goalie too early off the line is not punished either.