I hate Madrid as much as the next man with a brain and heart but that clearly has to be chalked off? He was going for the left corner, ball ended up in the roof of the net - no way that can happen without him shooting himself in the foot.

It's a good thing we play them anyway, we've historically been atrocious in Europe and the only way we can overcome that is by getting a big scalp. Not ideal we face them with no strikers, in awful form but having a haramball aficionado coach might actually work out in our favour for once

    Qwiss don't think we have to worry about that.

    Need Saka to come back at 100% for this to be respectable.

        jones going into march / April with no league or FA cup to play for, it will be great to have the marquee tie of the champions league so far. I’m hyped for this.

        Plus I believe we are a better match for Real Madrid. They have so many defensive injuries and issues, and they are protagonists, so we won’t be stuck facing ten men packed in the penalty box

          I feel like it should have been a retake similar to how it is if the keeper saves and is off the line rather than it being a goal awarded instead. Probably a call we'll never see again like some of the red cards we've had this season.

            jones I think it's highly unlikely Saka will be anywhere near his top level it will take a while to get back for that if at all this season.

              invisibleman18 happened a couple times in the Bundesliga in recent years and was chalked off each time, it's really not a new rule.

                invisibleman18 I feel like it should have been a retake similar to how it is if the keeper saves and is off the line rather than it being a goal awarded instead. Probably a call we'll never see again like some of the red cards we've had this season.

                It is an infringement under Rule 14 if a player taking a penalty strikes the ball twice before another player touches it. In normal time, this results in an indirect free kick. Alvarez can suck on my chocolate salty balls

                    Burnwinter

                    You can't have the tech and keep everyone in the dark. But then again, I think football revels in controversy. They could easily adopt better technology and refereeing standards if they wanted but even the fucking clubs themselves don't seem all that bothered until it affects them. Semi-automated tech was supposed to come in last season in the PL and we're still waiting and these shitty clubs now want a vote to remove VAR.

                    More controversy and emotions = more engagement.

                      Claudius It's not a referee problem, but it is a rule problem. If the keeper steps off the line and saves he gets to try again. If there's something wrong with a scored penalty it should be retaken imo.

                          QuincyAbeyie nope
                          The rules are fine and quite consistent.
                          1) On the striker hitting the ball twice - The striker is punished for his mistake by having the whole penalty chalked off
                          2) On the goalie moving off his line and saving - the goalie is punished for his cheating by giving the striker an opportunity to retake. This is nullified if the goalie's cheating is in vain and the striker does indeed score

                          Btw (1) happens so infrequently - probably less than 1% of all penalties taken that it should not be a priority for changing rules to favour attackers. Name the last time you saw this

                              Claudius The rules are fine and quite consistent.
                              1) On the striker hitting the ball twice - The striker is punished for his mistake by having the whole penalty chalked off
                              2) On the goalie moving off his line and saving - the goalie is punished for his cheating by giving the striker an opportunity to retake. This is nullified if the goalie's cheating is in vain and the striker does indeed score

                              Exactly my point.
                              The punishment for the GK is not that the penalty is deemed as scored even if the GK cheated.
                              The punishment for the striker hitting the ball twice is that the penalty is deemed as missed because he cheated.

                              Consistent would be either
                              1) that the penalty is deemed as scored if the GK steps off his line and saves, or
                              3) that the striker hitting the ball twice has to redo his penalty.

                                JazzG yeah its a lot easier to do that when you have Mbappe, Vini and Bellingham. Wasn't so chill when he had Richarlison, Iwobi and James Rodriguez.

                                    Claudius It is an infringement under Rule 14 if a player taking a penalty strikes the ball twice before another player touches it.

                                    Happened to us in comical fashion back in the day. Ask Thierry how he feels about Bobby's attempt to roll the penalty to him.

                                        Big Willie yeah, we all remember that. but that was 23 years ago or something. it's not a thing.
                                        i was so annoyed, like what are these idiots doing.
                                        That said, what they were trying is perfectly legal. you just need to ensure you don't touch the ball twice, the recipient is outside the box when you actually kick the ball, and the ball rolls forward.

                                            Claudius yeah, we all remember that. but that was 23 years ago or something. it's not a thing.

                                            Not arguing, just an example I remember of it happening because it happened to us.

                                            Claudius That said, what they were trying is perfectly legal.

                                            Indeed. It's happened a few of times since. Such was the confidence of that team they even came up with it. They could, and probably should, have pulled off that move given their quality. Most teams/players would never have the nerve to even think of trying it.