The geriatric race for the Presidency is a worry, but it's a symptom not a cause, like the composition of SCOTUS.

It'd be nice if some of the embarrassing Washington pundits—who always end up writing as if the necrotic US political system is some reason to shed a single jewelled tear at the miracle of democracy—would mount a deeper critique, but my guess is the spectacle will just be the usual come November.

the funniest thing is that biden is gaining in polls. a few months ago, people were freaking the fuck out because trump was basically up 5-6 points nationally and leading in all the battleground polls. now its basically a dead heat nationally and in the battleground states. yet biden has made a bunch of gaffes, looks even worse physically/mentally, and his handling of gaza has been absolutely horrific. and hes closed the gap. i guess some of those on the fence weirdos in the center are having trouble convincing themselves to vote for the convicted felon over the guy who should be getting charged with war crimes

Doesn’t change my life who’s in charge. Biden couldn’t stop senseless slaughter in the open air prison that is Palestine for the past half year. So does it matter outside US?

    Genuinely don’t know if Biden can survive the campaign trail looking at recent videos.

      goon its absolutely brutal. he legit looks like he has no idea where he is half the time. if republicans were running any kind of reasonable candidate, they'd have to be considered favorites at this point. but their candidate is going on rants about being electrocuted vs being the victim of a shark attack, so, its still fairly even. what a time to be alive

        mdgoonah41 their candidate is going on rants about being electrocuted vs being the victim of a shark attack,

        I'm not a big Trump fan but those random rants he goes on are hilarious.

        oh its hilarious, and if he wasnt such a threat to basic rights of minorities and women, he'd be endearing in the crazy grandpa kind of way.

          Qwiss Crazy how when this whole Hunter Biden laptop story broke in the last election how the media colluded to suppress that story. It was a real showing of power the Democrats had in the media in how they got everyone in line because it could cost them the election. I reckon they thought the Hilary story just before the last election swung it for Trump so were trying to avoid that.

          Also played a massive part in how the mainstream media is losing trust every day. Hunter also is facing some Tax charges as well.

          mdgoonah41 The way Biden is I just can't see anything but a Trump win. They isn't a massive difference in age but it honestly looks like Biden is being pilled up and sent out when needed whereas Trump isn't as sharp as he was but still seems with it.

            JazzG not only did they use their sway to get it ignored by the traditional media they got the story banned on Twitter at the time. No other similar story had ever been covered up on social media like that before. It was crazy.

              How do you get a left leaning story banned on Twitter?

              JazzG Hunter Biden found guilty on all three gun related charges.

              I'm no supporter of Joe Biden, but I can't see the relevance of this. His son's a drug addict who bought (but did not use) a gun? Who cares?

              Criminality in the sphere of any politician only seems salient if it goes clearly to the politician's character, or points to a probity issue or a point at which they could be vulnerable to subversion.

              There are far more serious probity concerns on the Democrat side, the GOP side, and Biden and Trump's specific cases. It's not like this is the Iran-Contra affair.

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              Claudius Biden couldn’t stop senseless slaughter in the open air prison that is Palestine for the past half year.

              War hits a bit different when your country doesn't fully support it for a change—I'm certainly feeling it as an Australian, having been used to my corrupt governments offering stonewall support to US imperial misadventures, no matter the carnage.

              JazzG What was the whole Biden laptop shit? Turned out to be nothing, I'm out of the loop here ? Also I will never get over this, when people talk like this, main stream media showing of power lol, brother Fox News is the biggest TV station in the USA, bar none, has something like 200% more views then CNN. But more then this, all of the big social media apps the ones that can get you elected as the president of any country, Facebook, Twitter, YT and tiktok cannot, and will never stop sucking Trumps dick. Trump is the main stream media man(this is without getting into the army of bots from China and Russia that work for him and push him out there or the religious leaders that push him all over the USA and the world - not the place to talk about that here)

                HomeSteak this is true. new media and fox seems to be skewed towards trump. new media has endless smoke for msnbc, cnn etc but of all the 'lamestream' entities fox seems to get off lightly for the litany of lies they espouse

                from what I've been seeing since the midterms and other assorted races, is there seems to be an interesting phenomenon where Ds overperform when Biden is not at the top of the ticket, and Rs underperform when trump is not on the ticket. the polling - which has been favouring Rs most of the time - hasn't been repeatedly flummoxed by this phenomena. God know what will happen in november

                I'm still firmly anti-trump. people seem to still see him as some renegade outsider like it's still 2016. he's just another corrupt piece of shit politician, with a cadre of the worst right wing ghouls pulling his strings for added measure.

                  They are both far to old to run, Trump started having a go at Biden but then was calling him Obama. The depressing thing is that trump is such an awful human being there could not be any worse leader for America. Best buddy's with Putin would unilaterally back Israel no doubt based on his previous actions while President. The world is already in a pretty bad place right now he's the last person you need anywhere near power.

                  Gazza M @HomeSteak Trump commands the media because he produces the most reliable enjoyment for both conservatives who get their rocks off to his chauvinism, and the liberals who tirelessly recirculate his gaffes, legal troubles, and parodic, clownish appearance.

                  He's the best entertainment product in the situation, if one goes by the clicks and ratings. Look how effortlessly he has moved back to the centre of discussion in this thread. If he loses, it won't be by getting free publicity.

                  One thing I'll give Trump is that unlike Biden he wasn't ducking away from the media when he was president. When was the last time Biden actually faced some kind of questioning from the media?

                  Trump seemed to be getting in an argument every other week with someone in the media but at least he took the questions. Trump seems to have the thickest skin out due to the sheer volume of shit he takes but also seems to have the thinnest and get offended by anything and everything! Was always on Twitter moaning about random shit.

                  Qwiss I think the Democrats had convinced the media that the Hilary story before the previous election had swung the election. Then they pushed the whole Russia collusion thing which turned out as being nothing. If the Democrats just put a fucking good candidate out imo they'd win this election, seem to be doing everything except that!

                  I mean even during Covid a lot of things were being suppressed and there was some next level propaganda going on. Any view which didn't fit the narrative was shut down and now as the dust is settling it is quite worrying how that all happened.

                  HomeSteak I don't think the point is whether it turned out as being nothing, the fact the media actively colluded to block this story from mainstream media before an election is imo election interference. This story was relevant and was not a Russian disinformation like the media had portrayed.

                  The laptop didn't have anything incriminating as far as I know but there were references to someone having cuts out of business deals, then some dubious business deals in Ukraine and China from what I remember and showed him as a drug addict and pictures with prostitutes. Now for some people like Burns has hinted above they won't care but for some people they will care and it will influence their decision. I mean if Trump's kids were up to no good it would make wall to wall coverage. He's now been convicted for gun offence and may get done on Tax charges. Right or wrong but all that doesn't reflect well on Joe Biden.

                    JazzG I think Giuliani went to Ukraine and did a meeting with a KGB agent to try and get email credentials and then access to get some dirty from it. So even if the laptop was true, the Russian are involved, man I'm telling you as east european guy, close to Russia. They are all in, they need him to win, they only stand to win if he wins. It was all over the news what are you talking about ? lol they did coverage of it every day in Romania my man. Trump is main stream media not Biden. I don't know how you don't see that.
                    And talking about Trumps kids, didn't Jarded Kutchner get 2 billion dollars for a building that was worth negative hunders of millions and was close to killing the business he blacked mailed his dad out of? (despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the merits of the deal) right after Trump backed the Saudis after the CIA said they killed that guy in Turkey? Yeah, like 6 months after Trump was accused of giving them state secrets they came in and made the worst investment in world history and it was barley mentioned right? And the disident(that talked about this) was pulled from amazon, netflix and all. Again, the main stream media is pro trump, very much.

                    My point is, fuck em both. It is insane to me that the USA has nobody better then a stupid narcissistic orange man with the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old and cognitive intelligence of 5 year old, and a guy that has been out of it for about 5 years now, and should be in a assisted home.