Claudius I take your point about diminishing returns but without going in the numbers again, last time I checked, Liverpool's outlay (or at least net spend) looked superior to ours in terms of return.

Let's not forget near misses either like Project Mudryk. And I get, Chelsea are a different club but the money touted for a guy with his experience was next level crazy.

    My point is that being 65% efficient is great success in an inherently unefficient market.

      daredevil the percentage for clubs that manage to reach the PL is almost as small, so we should actually be happy with everything that's happened the last few decades.

          QuincyAbeyie

          We won 5 titles, 2 Doubles, won our first major European trophy, reached our first ever CL final, moved to a new stadium, survived on a thin budget to become one of the most valuable clubs in the world, had some of the finest players ever don our shirts, survived our greatest manager and have emerged from the ashes like a phoenix to compete again at the highest level. You best believe I am happy.

              daredevil I'm saying that whenever you've been unhappy - if you've ever been unhappy about anything Arsenal-related in your entire life - that unhappiness would still have been about something that most clubs never achieve.

                  daredevil If City win the league I'll try to remember that other clubs also don't win the league and the sadness will hopefully go away.

                    Well done to David Raya for winning the golden glove. First time an Arsenal keeper has done it for 8 years.

                    Don Pacifico this guy is superb. Commanding in the air. And comes out to manage things as well. Like having a third centre back at times. So weird to see him all the way at the halfway line at times.

                      Don Pacifico nah he was very ropey today and very lucky with that call. Looks a bit nervous at the moment.

                          Qwiss nah he was very ropey today and very lucky with that call. Looks a bit nervous at the moment.

                          Tbh thought Don was just being sarcastic as I didn't think there was anythi g particularly noteworthy, at least noteworthily positive, from Raya today. He didn't have much to do bar the save from Solanke in the second half, maybe one more save I may be missing. He did sweep up well I think once or twice but what I was praising as his biggest strength (his aerial handling) was a bit shakey today. He punched at a lot of balls rather than claiming which is where their disallowed goal came from.

                          That said I do think it was a foul on him and the goal was rightfully ruled out as he was in effect guided away from his goal right up until the moment he jumped. Other refs might not have given it but it was absolutely the right call.

                            He was awful on that disallowed goal, really think it was Solanke looking at Raya and not the ball, rather than the extent of the contact itself, that led VAR to confirm the foul. I like Raya, and I think Arteta bought him because he lost trust in Ramsdale's mentality (likely stuff behind the scenes), rather than because he saw Raya as this incredible talent upgrade. But he hasn't solidified the #1 position yet.

                            I do trust that he will continue to improve though. He doesn't yet have that assurance and mad confidence you want from a keeper, and that's been exposed recently, but he has a good head on his shoulders.

                            Don was definitely being sarcastic 😆 .

                            We got away with one today really and even though I agree Raya is still ropey as our number 1, there aren't any special keepers in the market for us to say we need to upgrade Raya.