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Raya joins Arsenal

Qwiss

goon thought Ramsdale was decent with distro. Could have had an assist with one of those throw outs.

Anyway the whole thing is seemingly moot now. Unless Raya gets hurt we won't see Ramsdale again.

goon

Ramsdale’s distribution is good, not questioning that. But there’s a subtle difference between the two of them.

RocktheCasbah

Sicario2 This year the two games he’s been involved in he has made two errors that have led to opposition goals. 100 percent record. Well done Aaron

you know, you really don't need to keep bashing him. He's made some mistakes, so has Raya. They will both continue to do so as long as they both play football..

Sicario2

RocktheCasbah
I will keep doing it until there is fairness in the analysis around here of the two.

RocktheCasbah

Sicario2 "fairness"?

How can you say that with a straight face when you said this about five minutes ago?

Sicario2 Did City score from it? Moot point lad

As Jazz says, it's exactly the same mistake. That City didn't score from it doesn't make it any less of a mistake, it just means Raya got luckier than Ramsdale. And to be clear, I do generally believe Raya is, as unpalatable as it is to most Arsenal fans (myself included), an upgrade on Ramsdale. We shouldn't pretend he's perfect, that serves nobody.

Meatwad

Sicario2
i'm fair. i'm team fa world cup winner emi martinez.

JazzG

Sicario2 Raya got lucky, Ramsdale didn't. It was the exact same mistake.

I don't want Ramsdale to be our keeper but Raya isn't perfect either.

Claudius

Meatwad Emi is the kind of crazy fool who would’ve eventually been replaced by Arteta.

Clrnc

Claudius nah. They would be so loyal to each other had it worked out. Arteta will make Emi die for him

Claudius

Clrnc Emi tells the story that Arteta understandably wasn’t happy with him leaving. But Arteta didn’t stop him. He could’ve planted his flag for him and didn’t.
But all the crying he’s done since he left and molesting the World Cup trophy just makes him annoying.

JazzG

Claudius I understood Emi’s point of view, he had sat on the bench and on loan his whole career and now was his chance but I think he just needed to show some patience. When he came into the team he was obviously fantastic but Leno had probably had been one of our best players before his injury. I remember at the time how gutted we were because Leno had been keeping us in games and we thought we were fucked. So it would have been unfair for Arteta to just dump Leno for Emi. I think if he had stayed he would have taken Leno’s place but Arteta couldn’t guarantee that.

At the time Argentina were crying out for a keeper and Emi had caught their attention so he probably thought for his international career he couldn’t take the risk.

Claudius

JazzG I am with you. Emi has done well for himself. He is a World Cup winner starting a top 4 competitor.

Clrnc

AAStyle

Would Martinez be an upgrade to Raya? For the record, we now have a lot of vocal players and we dont have morale issues. So that factor is not significant.

Clrnc

AAStyle Hard to call but statistically Emi certainly trumps

https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats

Sicario2

AAStyle
Yes, having a World Cup winner who arguably made one of the top 3 greatest saves of all time is an upgrade on Raya and I’m the latter’s number 1 fan.

Big Willie

Sicario2 the top 3 greatest saves of all time

Wait, what?

JazzG

I don't think either of those Ramsdale saves yesterday were world class, good saves that you'd expect a good keeper to make. Ramsdale has made some gobsmacking saves for us but I wouldn't class those two yesterday as anywhere near those.

Sicario2

Big Willie

The one right at the death in injury time. France score that, they win the WC.

Greatest = most important

RowJimmy

OK. But nothing to do with whether he would fit our team better than Raya or Ramsdale. I loved him when he was here, was upset when we kept Leno rather than him, but I do not think he would be a better keeper for our current team.

Clrnc

RowJimmy He is very good with his distribution though

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