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Yeah but that can have a negative impact on Raya's morale. But well, I would have sung 'sacked in the morning' to Arteta had I been in the stadium during the last months of 2020, so who am I to criticize.

    awooga83 So they both have draw backs right now and are much of a muchness in what they offer in my view.

    This is the main issue, there's such marginal upside.

    When we spent pretty big money on Ramsdale, it raised a lot of eyebrows. But when he came into the side, his organisation of the defence and solid mentality clearly expressed themselves, and soon few were in doubt he was an improvement on Leno, despite Leno's good qualities.

    It won't be lost on our back four that Arteta's tinkering around with the position behind them without achieving much. And it harms morale when players who seem to be performing are scuttled. We've seen Ramsdale scrapped from the first XI but jaws were open when it looked like Gabriel might be too.

    I'm quite unimpressed with Arteta on these points, he seems to have a way to go understanding what works.

        Burnwinter exactly. Leno is probably a better or at least equal keeper in terms of shot stopping, controlling his box, etc as either of our current two but he couldn't play with the ball at feet. So we got Ramsdale and it made sense. If we'd signed Raya then that would have made perfect sense too. This deal for what it brings doesn't make sense, it hasn't raised our level at all. Its removed a vulnerability in Turner I suppose but its an expensive move in that regard.

          I'm going to overlook a few of the errors he is involved in till January next year. I'm putting a lot down to him settling in at a big club, and the defence / midfield getting used to him. Small sample size but I'm not very happy about his impact so far (besides, in my opinion, him being better at handling crosses into the box). From January onwards we should know if he is a net positive, net negative or just a pointless signing.

          It's such a dumb situation it's increasingly irritating just to think about. Imagine if we'd burnt £30m for this back in the day, you have to laugh.

          Wenger would never.

          he's spending all this money and wasting time trying to fix his original fuck up: letting world cup winner emi martinez get away because leno (a GK he knew he didn't rate because of his feet) couldn't lose his #1 status due to injury. fuck off with this shit.

          Mirth We have wasted 60m+, and also forgone Leno's value till it depreciated if we just kept Emi that summer. Our team would have been improved in other areas much earlier than now.

              Clrnc Agree we shouldn't have sold him but ultimately I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between Martinez, Ramsdale or Raya. Tbh I'd even argue Leno's actually the best goalkeeper of them all, he's just not very good with the ball at his feet.

                Sicario2 - Tier 1 not sure that graphic really says anything all that insightful. There's a whole lot more going on that's not represented in those stats (have personally always felt stats struggle to articulate a GK's performance).

                  They might as well be stats for CM too as they don't contain any real goalkeeper stats. Also lack some context which most stats do. Is the opposition CB winning a header from a long ball and the keeper passing it to Chelsea's striker on the penalty spot equally included in the "possession lost" category?

                  Question for the group - so I get that Mudryk's goal was a fluke but can someone better informed explain Raya's positioning? I get he's trying to be proactive but I feel like he's liable to be caught out with crosses to the back post.

                  Mirth he's been fairly shaky at times for Villa and reports during the summer were that Emery was trying to get rid of him. Think he's bought into his own hype too much.

                    Sicario2 - Tier 1 stats look wonky. According to whoscored Ramsdale has 77.1 pass competition and Raya has 77.8. So whats "pass accuracy"here?

                      Main thing making him look bad is that he’s being asked to play as an outfield player and the defenders are being asked to trust him like one.

                      The issue is the execution is off at the moment. He’s asked to take his time and pick the right pass, what’s
                      happening instead is he’s taking his time and missing the right pass, at least in phases of the game.

                      Defenders are asked to trust him and use him, they’ve taken that literally and just use him all the time, even when it’s not right.

                      We will work it out, and it’ll start looking a lot more nuanced vs this literal interpretation we are getting now.

                      @"Don Pacifico"#p2396

                      Although, I agree those stats might not be all encompassing, I would like to see where Ramsdale is proving to be statistically superior.