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Raya joins Arsenal

HomeSteak

Gazza M The second inaki cana recommended Runnarson for the number 2 role at Arsenal football club for me there was only one outcome. Just to make it clear, Rúnarsson is not good enough to start for a mid table team in the championship as we can see. He was not good enough to be number 1 in the Belgian league...and this prick got him here to be our back up. No doubt in my mind, first day in training when we saw just how shit Rúnarsson is, we should have fired Cana. He either is incompetent or he made money of that deal, either way, should have been fired, maybe even beaten.

lorddulaarsenal

Gary Neville doing his best to make a thing of this

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Keep him. That Mud goal was a fucking miss-hit.

Talking about mentality, after that ‘mistake’ he played really well. Played really well after shaky 1st half v City. Nothing wrong with his mentality if he can do that back to back games. Just needs to do it over 90.

Ramsdale is not better, Arteta made his choice and live with it. What happens if Ramsdale has a bad game again. With GK’s you need a much bigger sample size before making any big decisions.

Clrnc

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Talking about mentality, after that ‘mistake’ he played really well.

Not sure what you were watching, he passed it straight to Chelsea to score after that goal, and then hesitated like a clown coming off the line vs Jackson. He got lucky Jackson was shit.

HomeSteak

Sicario2 - Tier 1 He legit passed it to a Chelsea player for 1 vs 1 after the goal lol. Then on that Jackson play, he wanted to go out and then stopped, then credit to him he made a great save, but a proper striker puts it past him that very second he hesitated. He was horrible from start to finish

Jed

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Played well after his mistake? Could swear he gave Palmer a tap-in which the latter somehow couldn’t convert into a goal.

lorddulaarsenal

Agree. That was a freak goal by Mudryk

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Dont think that Jackson chance was a discredit to Raya. A lot of keepers would have just panicked and jumped in. Raya showed a lot of exposure there and did very well after this in general.

invisibleman18

So that's now clangers against Spurs, Lens and Chelsea that have led to dropped points, and god only knows how he got away with the first half against Man City. Is this just allowed to continue all season or does the rotation Arteta described happen now the guy is repeatedly costing the team points?

Sicario2 - Tier 1

invisibleman18

His super save at Spurs cancelled out that ‘error’.

Ramsdale fucked up v Fulham and a good keeper would have saved that Perriera shot. His foot work was all over the place.

We’ve had more clean sheets under Raya than Ramsdale with I think same number of games played.

Let’s not make it out Ramsdale is the dogs bollocks - Ramsdale made two huge errors in the business end of the season - Southampton and Sporting. People have short memories.

Raya keeps his place. Ramsdale will get his moment in CC and away to Brentford soon.

invisibleman18

DiabyKungFu have another look at the Spurs and Lens goals for a start.

Qwiss

invisibleman18 was very lucky to get away with his panicky shit against City too.

GooneriC

This guy isn't better than Ramsdale , he's giving me Almunia vibes. Fidgety

QuincyAbeyie

I very much like Raya's handling and his saves, but I struggle a bit to understand the praise for his long passes/passing in general. I saw one stat that praised him for being the GK in the league that passed the ball the longest in general, but is that really praiseworthy? In my anecdotal experience, the ability to pass it out short is even more valuable to teams that look to play out from the back. In comparison, Brighton almost never go long from the GK.

Burnwinter

It hardly matters in the detail whether Raya's worse or better than Ramsdale. The fact is the differences are marginal, but now Raya has made a few high profile errors some fans are naturally calling for him to be dropped, while others defend him. Meanwhile Ramsdale's struggle is the lead story about Arsenal going into this match.

"Two #1s" has created drama and uncertainty with minimal football gains. Setting this situation up was a mistake and we shouldn't be prolonging it. Let's be clear as well: this result was another barely acceptable two points dropped, if we're trying to be title challengers.

AAStyle

If Arteta is serious with his two #1s then Raya should be dropped. But actually the most probable scenario is that Raya keeps the spot; a more calamitous performance is required for him to be dropped by Arteta (at least in my view).

Clrnc

He's not worth the time. Really. Not better than Ramsdale. He has had more high profile jittery moments in his 2 months here than Ramsdale in his 2 years.

Don Pacifico

Clrnc that's it really. This isn't about Ramsdale being perfect (he's not) but I see more upside in Ramsdale than Raya right now added to the fact we really didn't need to spend the kind of money we did on another GK.

Possibly the most Kool Aid signing we've made under the current regime.

Qwiss

My big worry with Raya now is that his mistakes look to be playing on him. Ramsdale fucked up his fair share but I can't remember him looking as rattled by it as Raya has.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Qwiss

Maybe less was said because Ramsdale is English and a media darling.

If Raya made the same sort of mistakes Ramsdale did last season we would never hear the end of it.

I think our fans are to blame, it’s almost ppl want Raya to fuck up so they can be proven right about their boy Ramsdale. Also in the stadium the fans need to calm the fuck down every time Raya is on the ball, they make the situation worse. It’s a reason why they are fans and this guy gets paid £200K per week, let the professional do their job. Just adds to unnecessary pressure.

Finally, yesterday, they were singing Ramsdale’s name? What the f is that about when the other guy is in goal.

awooga83

It seems to be that the way Arteta wants to play he feels Ramsdale cannot do it or won't even attempt it. So he's got Raya in because he does have the skillset or ability to try to play the way he wants. But there have been issues with that. It seems if he isn't totally happy with Raya he may end up looking for someone else because he's seemed to not being Ramsdale can do what he wants.

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