We really need to do something to our goalkeeping position. It wasn't a problem position last year but now it is. Predictable, and predicted by almost every single professional goalie and pundit that if you have 2 similar level keepers who wants to be number 1, you will end up making both afraid and nervous of making mistakes, eroding their confidence and both performance levels will drop.

That's what we are seeing now. And that's why in the history of football it has not worked before over the long term.

Brilliant investment, this guy. Spent(will spend? makes it even worse) 20m+ and somehow made the position weaker. Edu and Arteta are really kicking it out of the park with these signings.

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Whether it was out is irrelevant to judging his abilities and that fumble.

Just like Sanchez's pass against us would've been equally bad if Rice skied his shot, using outcome rather than the action itself to analyze will give you a bad outcome.

    Another costly mistake from Raya. I was a positive on this signing when it happened but you'd have to be completely deluded not to see he's been a flop. The Kai Havertz of goalkeepers.

      In recent weeks that's now crosses flapped at against Spurs, Chelsea and Newcastle that have all led to goals and dropped points, plus the one he almost punched into the net against Sevilla. Crosses are looking a major concern that are now repeatedly costing us points.

      Not surprised Sicario couldn't get here quick enough with a reason for why it doesn't really count. Surprised it wasn't called a "fluke" again though.

      Qwiss

      Worst comparison ever. Kai is a big game player, which looks like the opposite of Raya so far.

      However, still think it’s been blown out of proportion and becoming a Sky narrative

        Qwiss he's been a flop.

        Or flap even. Sicario is right not to compare to Havertz though. The better comparison would be the last Spanish keeper we had.

          We only conceded one goal in the match, so from the mistake being described as 'costly', one can deduce what it was.

          Sicario2 - Tier 1 Ball was out of play so moot point about a mistake.

          Don't troll mate. The goal stood so it could have been worth a point at least to save it. Could have changed the result entirely in a key match.

          Again, the issue is not even Raya versus Ramsdale. It's this: due to the situation set up by our technical leaders, anything less than a brilliant keeping performance immediately raises questions.

          With Raya not in control for the goal we conceded and otherwise unremarkable, what has been the point of it all? It would be less painful had Ramsdale already been sold on.

            His performance today was 10,000,000 times better than any performance Aaron Ramsdale has ever had for us in the Champions League. Levels.

              DiabyKungFu
              Agreed. Another clean sheet. If it wasn’t for that bogus Newcastle goal it would have been 3 consecutive clean sheets.

                Flappihandsky would be proud!

                Is that his 4th clean sheet without the opposition having a shot? Almost without touching the ball even. Everton, PSV, Sheffield United being the others. Of course, it's nothing against him that we've been so dominant the opposition haven't had a sniff, but it's a stat that can be used to make his performances sound a lot more spectacular.

                I thought people were being facetious. Sevilla didn't have a shot all game. I'm not even talking shot on target. like, they literally didn't shoot until very late in the game

                  Gazza M their first shot on target was the 96th min, it brought out a brilliant save from Raya. Don't think Ramsdale would have got to that and have a clean sheet.

                  The difference between Raya and Ramsdale is getting big. If Ramsdale started the last 4 games we probably wouldn't have 3 clean sheets in 4 games as the opponents would have peppered our goal if its Ramsdale.

                    Mates we are lucky with Raya. If that had been Ramsdale in goal for the triple VAR check, the referee would've awarded two goals to Newcastle

                    Don't forget we'd have lost the Sheffield United and Everton games 3-0 too.