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Jorginho

Qwiss

Bernard Woolley Jorginhos getting a new deal.

Bernard Woolley

Qwiss Got it. Sorry, just to clarify, I meant upgrading the #8 position or #6 with Rice at #8, depending on how we set up next season - Arteta seems to like making 1-2 tactical tweaks each season.

Gazza M

daredevil I don't think we're in a rush to sell. only if a good offer comes along. think it was the same situation with partey last season

Pepe LeFrits

Has signed an extension. Announced by the club. Good

Don Pacifico

Jorginho new deal confirmed - he'll be with us for another year.

Have said it before but personally think he's been a fantastic signing given his squad role. Don't think you'll get many players of his quality as back-up.

Is this the nail in Partey's coffin?

Burnwinter

Don Pacifico Is this the nail in Partey's coffin?

Not quite the last one, but surely it's to give us some certainty about moving him on. Canny decision, it takes the risk out of bigger business.

JazzG

I have a feeling it isn't just on the pitch but off the pitch Jorginho is a very highly thought of player within the club. So definitely makes sense to keep him. He's shown this season that he is a very valuable member of the squad.

Tam

JazzG Someone needs to take on the Elneny role when he goes!

Qwiss

Partey has to go now. We need to replace him with someone more reliable. Jorginho has proven himself a quality squad player. Its all good.

IBL

If we were to keep Partey it should be on severely reduced wages or a pay as you play basis. Jorginho ideally would be Elneny's replacement and we get a proper CM to start alongside Rice.

USArsenal

i dont know why people think this is the end of Partey's time here. Jorginho is not a Partey replacement, he is a squad player, and cannot start game after game for us. (well, neither can partey). If Partey were to leave, we need to sign a direct replacement starter, not just another CM that can 'fill in'. Like others have said, Jorginho would take the Elneny role (albeit much better) but going into next season with him as a starter along with Rice and Ode, we are already putting ourselves at a disadvantage from the start.

RocktheCasbah

USArsenal it may not turn out this way, but I think Ornstein recently wrote that only one of Partey and Jorginho was likely to stay beyond the summer.

Burnwinter

USArsenal i dont know why people think this is the end of Partey's time here

USArsenal If Partey were to leave, we need to sign a direct replacement starter, not just another CM that can 'fill in'.

Partey's already left. He's completed well under ten league matches. If we don't sign someone to "replace" him (that is, to actually play) heading into the season, especially with Havertz established at 9, we're mad.

Panda

Great news. Only a year is a good incentive for him to keep performing too.

Hopefully enables us to replace Partey this summer with a new starting midfielder who will have time to adapt.

banduan

The problem with replacing Partey is that his skillset isn't exactly common.

Qwiss

banduan there's more than one way to skin a cat.

JazzG

banduan The main skillset is availability and in last 4 seasons, if we assume he plays the next two games, he is averaging 23.75 PL appearances a season. He's on £200k a week which is too much for a part time player. No doubt on form he is one of our best players but we need players who give us 50+ appearances like Rice not someone who we are praying doesn't break down every week.

invisibleman18

We've seen so little of it that's it not really something we're missing at this point.

Claudius

invisibleman18 we will miss it, but we won't

lorddulaarsenal

I think that’s why there’s so much interest in Bruno. He has a different style to Partey but he’s able to progress the ball as effectively. Less able to evade players with a drop of the shoulder but also less sloppy in possession.

Claudius

lorddulaarsenal I don’t know if Partey is sloppy in possession. He has a high risk approach like Zinchenko. Which means they are both able to really open you up with a single pass. But this requires attracting a lot of pressure in high traffic areas. Saliba does the same thing, but he’s typically only marked by 1 person, not 2 or 3.

But as the team gets better - you have more players who are good on the ball - you need less hero ball. You just close the distances and progress the ball faster. So they are both really good, but less necessary when the level is raised

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