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Domestic Cups

Big Willie

Mirth It really did. Was at that game. Took my little brother and a couple of his friends to that. One was even a United fan but ended up jealous we had Vela. Good times.

Mirth

Big Willie in many ways this is was probably the level that Wenger saw from these players in training which prompted him to gamble on youth in a time where we were financially a little skint. Unfortunately they couldn’t make the step up through lack of mentality or injuries

RocktheCasbah

Big Willie I was there too, was by the tunnel for this one. Might be wrong, but seen to remember Jack Wilshere having an absolute blinder.

Coombs

Claudius it’s the whole structure of the league

The league cup and the premier league are different competitions, though.

Claudius

Coombs it’s the same participants.

Claudius

Mirth just the usual - most kids don’t make it to a top 4 premier league club level long term. There are so many good players being produced every year. Only a couple will be good enough to play at the top top level

goon

Vela could have been so good. That even Wenger who was a soft touch by modern standards, didn’t think he had the required mentality, tells you all you need to know. Wasted talent.

USArsenal

goon Yeah, he didnt really have 'it' to make it in a top league, but he did tear up MLS for quite a few seasons and made a decent career of it.

daredevil

goon

Vela was like a generational striker being snatched from the jaws of victory.

Clrnc

USArsenal he tore it up at La Real and was better than Griezmann. What a shame he doesn't like football at all

He had unbelievable talent

Big Willie

RocktheCasbah I was there too, was by the tunnel for this one. Might be wrong, but seen to remember Jack Wilshere having an absolute blinder.

I don't really remember much of that performance from Jack aside from his goal. The standout star was undoubtedly Vela though and we came out that gane thinking we have someone truly special coming through. Such a shame how it all turned out.

Qwiss

Clrnc I think Spurs are easier to beat for us.

Qwiss

awooga83 don't agree there. This is still a minor trophy. I'd put about the same effort into the final for the league cup as I would the 3rd round of the FA cup.

awooga83

Qwiss it's not the trophy I'm that bothered about it's this team winning and getting a winning culture. If that was going to be the league or champions League great I just don't believe we have what it takes to win those so got to go for the thing nearest the outcome. I think this team desperately needs to have an outcome where they have "won" something this season to dispel any sense you can't get over the line.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

daredevil one of the biggest disappointments.

Didn't he "lose" his passport or something in advance of a big CL away tie? Sums the banter era up.

Qwiss

awooga83 I've never believed winning the league cup makes much difference to you winning anything else.

Big Willie

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert think that's what goon was referring to. That was the moment Arsene lost faith in him I reckon.

daredevil

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

You get it when you realise the kid was born in Cancun.

awooga83

Qwiss I think winning and building a mentality for actually winning is a positive psychological thing for a team like ours. It's not the end of anything but I think they have to show they can see something through to the end.

HomeSteak

awooga83 I remember both Mourinho and Pep saying winning the league cup helped them in the league run in, as it grew the players appetite for silverware. I don't blame Wenger or Arteta for overlooking it in previous years as we did not have the squad to for it, but now we do.
I would be ok with either the Fa cup or the league cup and a top 3 finish.

Mirth I feel old watching this, Wilshere scoring at 16. Wenger never won it, but he sure made watching the league cup fun. And Vela really fucked it up, he had so much talent

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