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Qwiss

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Seen Patino played at #6 this week and did great. He should come back this summer and take Sambis place. I had hopes for Lokonga but he doesn't look like he's improving for whatever reason, lack of football can't be helping but he isn't going to change that here. Time to move on. We'd have been a lot better off if we'd just kept Willock.

Qwiss

goon Its funny you mentioned Tierney and Holding as Tomiyasu was the one sticking out like a sore thumb last night. Guy looks way off the pace since his return. We need him to get back up to speed before the Europa league returns.

goon

Qwiss I'm not so concerned by form. Hopefully Tomi will get back to his best, but we all know what he's capable of. With Holding and Tierney it's different, it's not their lack of form that concerns, it's the limitations to their game relative to what we're trying to do, particularly when it comes to progressing the ball.

I saw this earlier and it doesn't look good for Tierney, or maybe it just looks very good for Zinchenko?

Burnwinter

One thing those stats show is there's no way we could play the way we do without proper footballers right across the back five. The days of specialist centre halves who can't pass and move are over.

goon

It'll definitely have an impact but in Tierney's case we've seen him enough with the first team to know it's something he struggles with a little in general.

Burnwinter I remember a few debates on here about the emphasis on defenders and keepers who can pass out the back and what takes priority. Since then it's definitely swung closer to being of equal importance and maybe even in favour of distribution. We've got someone like Ramsdale who's value as someone keeping the ball out of the net has been questionable this season, but has been so good on the ball that no one ever thinks to raise it as an issue.

Pepe LeFrits

Those stats don't look great for Tierney but I'd wonder how much of an impact playing a lot of his football in our backup team has.

Burnwinter

Put simply, the players topping our "passes per 90" are all defenders except for Partey. And everyone forward of Partey is accountable for generating and finishing chances, not recycling the ball. And of course White and Zinchenko also participate heavily in our build-up.

I bet we see very different numbers if we go back prior to the squad overturn of the summer before last.

Qwiss

Burnwinter central defenders of almost every team top their pass %, DMs too but its just the way that stat goes. Its just easier to pass the ball in your own half. Our central defender do it well compared to other defences though. I think they move it much more quickly than they used to and make less major errors on the ball compared to Luiz, Mustafi, etc

Burnwinter

Qwiss 👍️ I want to see the old stats.

goon

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goon
😆 Brilliant!

Big Willie It's an HBO mini-series(10 episodes, about hour each) called Band of Brothers. It's absolutely brilliant! Definitely recommend if you haven't seen it yet. For me, it's certainly among the best TV series ever made.

Pepe LeFrits

Spiers as Xhaka 🤣

Big Willie

Never watched that film so no clue who Spiers is, actually thought he said Spurs 🤣

But yeah the Xhaka was hilarious. Where is the Xhaka yellow card when you need him.

Edit: Lakonga and Airpods looooooool.

Pepe LeFrits

Big Willie But yeah the Xhaka was hilarious. Where is the Xhaka yellow card when you need him.

I love that Xhaka's name is the only one in yellow.

Big Willie

Pepe LeFrits exactly. I was looking for the name with the yellow card image but didn't realise how to do it.

Daz

Lakonga and Holding 🤣🤣

Asterix

Lol. Yep Band of Brothers is wonderful. Thoroughly recommend.

James

Charged over the handball appeal, which is hilarious.

goon

We're obviously the only club that appeals for anything. I'd hope we keep doing it but I think on the pitch I reckon it's counter productive.

QuincyAbeyie

Do I misunderstand or do you think it's counter productive but still hope we keep doing it?

goon

QuincyAbeyie

Other way around. I want to keep doing it to spite the FA but don't think we should because it's counter productive. We need to be a bit smarter and use one or two players to protest so make the point without making referees/VAT stubborn or vindictive. I also think we inadvertently wasted a bit of time ourselves against Newcastle by protesting everything.

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