lorddulaarsenal
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/best-strikers-in-the-world-ronaldo-lewandowski-harry-kane
Looked at a few of these lists. Marmoush and Osimhen are the only two players who could help in champions league. I doubt Isak is an option given where Newcastle are headed. If we could get Gyokeres even if he was cup tied, would be worth it. And I’m still a Sesko fan.
lorddulaarsenal what was that spend £80m-ish combined? It's not much for a club with title aspirations.
Team looks stale and bereft of ideas , no individuality no drive no urgency no style. Just slow and boring to watch . We played against 10 men , and we took so long on throws and set pieces they could as well have been sipping lemonade and chilling before they organized to get defending.
Another trophyless season and not even really challenging for the league this time so it's probably fair for questions to start to be asked. Of course every team will be worse off without their best player but for the amount of money spent the whole thing shouldn't completely fall over with one injury.
We really are a punish to watch too. Pointless even going forward when there's noone there to do anything. Havertz maybe had a purple patch for a handful of games or whatever it was but he's clearly not a striker and we're now paying the price for an investment that never made sense. Like Sterling and Luiz and all the others, there's a reason Chelsea let them come here.
Arteta's maybe starting to lose his grip a bit, there's the ambience of declining trust. Josh Kroenke has also dropped away. It's very hard to imagine us progressing much in Europe based on these performances.
We need a shot in the arm of some kind. I agree the foundations are good and that Arteta's a good manager, but our stocks are dropping and a big chunk of our performance is set by the runaway sentiments inside and outside the club.
Season has not gone well and not getting a forward in during the summer window has clearly contributed to our underperformance.
Things don't look great but we're just about in with a shot in three competitions still. Likely won't go our way but I see no way we get to the end of August without signing the attacker(s) we need.
All this being said, we've had a tremendous amount of bad fortune this season. Bad fortune that could have mitigated by recruitment but bad fortune nevertheless. I can understand the gloom but some of the histrionics after the match appear to be dismissive of this fact.
That is true, the number and concentration of the injuries and the corrupt refereeing decisions have been incredible this season.
that's why, short of us missing top 4, I'd give him another season to take a swing at it. there have been some genuine headwinds this season. we had mainly tailwinds last season aside from timbers longterm injury. arteta has to come to grips with the fact that his football is prone to creative droughts and recruit accordingly from now on. failure to acknowledge the shortcomings in his approach and make the necessary adjustments will be the end of him
lorddulaarsenal Not sure what to make of that?
Is it the Kroenkes? Though why spend on Merino and Cala if funds are limited?
We've dominated Man Utd, literally created chance after chance and so he isn't going to come out and throw his players under the bus.
It is like it is in the DNA of the club, we had this under Wenger as well fucking chance after chance we create and still can't score! I mean look at the chances yesterday, those players score them 8 or 9 times out 10. Unbelievable really.
Havertz must have missed 3 xG on his own in the last few games.
Havertz is trash. Chelsea fans I (unfortunately) know are pissing themselves laughing.
Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert They weren't laughing a few months back were they? Come on man, he has his issues but shit like this can happen.
Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Havertz is trash.
Not really. He's not worth what we paid, he's not worth his wages but he's not trash either. He's ok. He'd be a great rotational player. Someone who ironically you'd call in for these cup games, someone to come on in midfield or up front in the last 10-20 minutes of a big game, etc He's useful its just that his current status in the squad is above where it should be. He should be the Merino of the central attack.
Gazza M I can understand this perspective but it has to accompanied by proper acknowledgment that at three moment what he's built is missing key components. I've seen some views of but for the bad luck we'd actually be fine but we've still had major issues when I'm the good seasons, goal scoring has been a long term issue despite racking up some big wins. It can't be just go again a you were. If he's not capable of acknowledging the flaws we've had then we should be looking for someone else.
Ok fine, it's true Havertz has value as a squad player or clever tactical option.
I'm just beyond pissed at the club re our attacking recruitment. It's shocking and has been for years and years. I'm looking for easy scapegoats.
Qwiss I agree with this he's an okay squad player but it should have been 20m and much lower wages. That was a massive fuck up on valuation by us and that does seem to be impacting what we are able to do. Consistency is key for quality players so a nice run for 6 months doesn't change that his overall career in the prem pretty much shows his level and her isn't reliable as a goalscorer.
Gazza M Fully agree with this. This could be an indication of any number of things - that the last 2 years were an incredible purple patch, that Arteta doesn't have the resilience to come good when there's a little headwind of either injuries or bad refereeing, or that this is a one-off shitstorm from which he can come back with 1 good summer. Next season will give us the answer (assuming our hands are not tied behind our back financially) and that's the time to make the relevant judgment. If we are not up there and challenging in January 2026, I'd look to bring in another manager and give him the summer to recruit as he wants.
awooga83 I agree with this he's an okay squad player but it should have been 20m and much lower wages.
You genuinely can't get Havertz for £20m in today's football. And you can see why, granted his finishing has been average but his athleticism and work rate are outlandish for a man his size.
It's one of those cases where a Vlahović or Šeško shows up and certainly isn't transformational by comparison. I would still rather go in for a gun left winger who can play with Havertz.
