Segway you would think they'd have learnt a thing or two having been lost in the wilderness for the past ten years. Brain dead.

SimplyThePest they are a weird fanbase. I saw their post match thread and some of them saying they didn't lose to us. Was an even match without set pieces. Most don't mind losing to us because we only scored from corners.

Like it doesn't count lol

Clrnc it's also not really borne out by what happened during the match. I know the first half was a nothing, but in the second half we created plenty of open play opportunities - we just didn't take them. They created nothing, one cross shot and that header and that was basically it. You can't complain about losing when that is the sum total of 90 minutes output.

If they want to carry on like 2010 Arsene Wenger, that's their lookout I reckon. Let them get on with it.

flobaba me too. Love us being physically dominant whilst being intelligent with it too.

Mik Arteta is a serious manager.

Was interesting to hear him speak about how we can improve still by introducing a threat with runs in behind and having someone in the attack capable of moments of magic.

Leao and Isak please

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Desperate stuff there, but I admit I'd despise Arteta if he managed another club. He doesn't have a scrap of decency or generosity towards other setups in him, that's one of his distinctive qualities.

You can tell Arteta observes and learns from other - introducing new aspects to our armoury over time.

Motivated intelligent competitive sponge that he is

RocktheCasbah poor old Arsene really would have been in a lather losing like that, wouldn't he?

goon Yes, those "Supports: Arsenal" blokes in the linked thread give me the heebie jeebies. Very odd behaviour.

goon Redcafe's pathetic. They were cheering City - their local rivals - on over us past couple of seasons.

RocktheCasbah Indeed... You'd think there'd be a throng of old school battlers like Allardici, Pulis, Pardieu, etc., coming out in defence of Set Piece FC but no, crickets...

SimplyThePest funny you say that, I've literally just had one of my Brentford mates having a little pop at us and it's like ” well, hold on a second there my friend...!"

SimplyThePest these guys all hated our guts

Claudius I think they hated Wenger more than Arsenal and much of that due to how he viewed and approached the game.

And because he was French/"foreign". Let's not forget it was never just a football thing.

And they don't give Saka the recognition he deserves because he's black. Remember how he became the face of England's failure just a few months ago? Not even subtle. And till this day, no apologies, no repercussions, no accountability, nothing. They're still out there, waiting to drag him down.

but there does appear to be a broader Arsenal issue. it might just be that we have been a serious team for the last 30 years, and media is dominated by Liverpool and United heads who shape the narrative. don't know if there is anytihng beyond that

Clrnc blame the the ref’s and ‘letter of the law’

Arteta could be way too stubborn to win us a major trophy.

Clrnc I mean that would be a very poor return enough to look at everything and assess are we going towards running the title with an time and investment put in or do we need to do something else.