Does the delay take away any of the joy before you can properly celebrate?
His answer to this question is obvious to anyone who enjoys the emotional high of that moment.
Like Bosscielny said, I'd take a slight delay over losing the game. A little less excitement is a very cheap price to pay compared to the stinging disappointment if the goal hadn't been allowed and we had dropped three points.
People will settle down eventually. This tech is only changing about 5% of goal decisions, so once we are past the initial shock, we should lose some of the celebration anxiety. And, like the Klaus, I prefer this version of the world.
I already addressed that point back in August so felt no need to reply.
Bold Tone wrote: ... Don't get me wrong, i'm not against VAR but that's not to say we don't lose a bit as VAR would have ruined my best ever World Cup moment. "It’s why I can’t accept that Tardelli moment should be technologically paused or interfered with while it’s approved from far, far away. It goes against everything I want out of football, sport and existence." https://www.football365.com/news/var-debates-are-exhausting-wearying-and-totally-pointless When all is said and done, VAR is here to stay and i'm sure will be tweaked over time to reduce it's imperfections.
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Don't get me wrong, i'm not against VAR but that's not to say we don't lose a bit as VAR would have ruined my best ever World Cup moment. "It’s why I can’t accept that Tardelli moment should be technologically paused or interfered with while it’s approved from far, far away. It goes against everything I want out of football, sport and existence." https://www.football365.com/news/var-debates-are-exhausting-wearying-and-totally-pointless
When all is said and done, VAR is here to stay and i'm sure will be tweaked over time to reduce it's imperfections.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/var-football-world-cup
Illuminating article and nothing to complain about but, in practice, I would prefer the VAR team to always overrule the on-field referee for all "clear and obvious errors" as it was in the ref's prerogative to decide not to consult VAR in the Man Utd game and there would've been nothing we could do about it. This week, for example, Iceland got screwed in the Bosnia match as the VAR team did not correct the on-field ref on a penalty decision.
The hesitation when it comes to overruling the ref or at least telling him to come take a look at the monitor is getting ridiculous. They're not even using VAR.
It hasn't gone without hiccups elsewhere but nowhere in Europe has the usage of VAR been this ridiculously poor. Who could've foreseen that giving technology to a bunch of self governing imbecile dinosaurs would lead to this result
I really think The FAs are taking a protective but self-defeating stance on referees. They are probably not over-ruling the referees to avoid undermining the. They possibly want to ensure their authority remains absolute beforethe playets as much as possible. How much respect will a fallible referee get?
I don't know if any sport that uses video technology has got it right as such - perhaps the US sports but the cost of that is the extended game time. I think in just about every case the original intent was to correct 'clear and obvious' errors, but in almost every case they then become slaves to the technology in making determinations that are not clear or obvious and are beyond human capability to determine. Then there are the inconsistencies regarding the use of the technology or referrals whereby the match officials can make decisions whether to use it or not, and there are inconsistencies between different games/officials and even in the same game.
That are interpreting clear and obvious to ridiculous level
And not once in 80 games have we seen a ref go to the monitor. Just remove it if you don't intend to use it
Mike Riley, manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), defending referees after the first month of use in the Premier League, said VAR had only corrected four mistakes.
VAR in the Premier League 227 – Incidents checked by VAR 6 – On-field decisions changed 10 – Decisions that should have been overturned
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11807734/var-premier-league-referee-chief-mike-riley-admits-four-mistakes-this-season
For me, these figures are meaningless as clear errors not acted upon are not counted as mistakes.
Hopefully, the pressure forces the Premier League to grow a pair and do what they are supposed to do and correct every mistake that is referred to them. The arbitrary "higher" bar that the PGMOL group hide behind should be removed.
I think everyone knows the reason and one of the replies explicitly stated it.
Klopp summed it up perfectly which I also mentioned before in the thread.
“The process [allows] the ref to make the decision or not because they have VAR. The ref thinks: ‘Let it run – we have VAR.’ But then VAR says it can’t be overruled because it was not clear. How can he say it’s not a foul? I was 100% sure. I said, ‘Wow.’ I was not angry, I was surprised. I think everyone can agree it was a foul but with VAR it is not a clear foul. That is the situation.
It is supposed to clear up errors but now it has cause the ref to make more errors than ever.
It's doubly annoying for me as I thought cheats like the totts would be brought under control but the non-use of VAR has benefited them every other week (far more than any other club, I think) with the latest example being mane's handball versus dele ali's handball. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/tottenham-avoids-disaster-as-var-somehow-allows-dele-alli-handball-on-tying-goal/
In a league with jokers like Sterling Kane Alli Son Trashford Willian Salah and Mane we top this table
An absolute fucking disgrace and I hope Riley Dean Atkinson suffer from debilitating diarrhoea for the rest of their miserable lives
Talksp*rts is a joke. Make sure you sit down before clicking the link in the spoiler [spoiler]https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/radio-host-makes-ridiculous-claim-gerrard-could-leave-rangers-for-arsenal/[/spoiler]
Premier League match officials would be in favour of replays of VAR incidents being shown on screens in the stadium to improve the experience for supporters by giving them a much better understanding of the review process and the reason why the game is being held up. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/01/var-controversy-premier-league-vote-stoke-peter-coates-steve-parish
I wonder why they changed their minds. :brow:
VAR chief Neil Swarbrick marks new system as 'seven out of 10' despite criticism
"I'm really pleased, honestly, with how we have started out," "I'm comfortable with where we are but there's no doubt there's room for improvement. It's a work in progress,"
Referees' chief Mike Riley is expected to give an update on how the introduction of VAR has gone in a briefing to all 20 top-flight clubs at a meeting in central London on Thursday. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50380641
The only fans that love VAR are tottenham since the dodgy Champion's League decision. They were singing their VAR song again when it cancelled Sheffield Utd’s goal https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/var-needs-to-die-a-slow-death-fans-outraged-as-sheffield/tyrotw4onnj81pspmxrmk5u9o
I don't think there's anything wrong with VAR. The people using it on the other hand..
