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Deadline Day thread (Arsenal + Non Arsenal)

Claudius

JazzG wrote:
Rohit wrote:
Zaha for Iwobi would have upset me. This is really frustrating. Hard working Arsenal boy with flair and upside that we have invested time in for the last few years, who doesn't complain and may be on the verge of a breakthrough year is sold without replacement. Don't like this at all. The clubs are ruthless with players too when it suits them. Wish him luck, really liked him.

Like I said earlier, Zaha was 23 when he left United. He barely touched the ball for them.

We as a club need to be a hell of a lot more ruthless, we can't just be sentimental all the time. Need to start acting like a big club and if players don't work out, when a good offer comes in move them on. We are getting £40m for him so our investment in him has paid off. I agree ideally he would have made it here but a few flashes here or there isn't good enough. If he proves us wrong fair enough but as long as we reinvest the money wisely I don't see a problem. We've got some great youngsters coming through so this is their chance as well to step up now.

While I am sad to see Iwobi go, I can support this view. You need to prune the tree. Iwobi has had over 120 games in an Arsenal jersey, so sufficient time to state a case. He has been a good player but not a great player. If our ambition is to get back to competing with City and Pool, then we should by all means sell the good players and reinvest in great players like Pepe at each position as much as possible. And do this as ruthlessly as possible, while maintaining a balance of stars, grafters and kids throughout the team

Ray

I think Iwobi is a good talent, but £40m is too good to turn down, and we’ve got quite a few talents coming through in the same position.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Can't believe people are angry we sold Iwobi. He's one of our most lambasted players. Make up your minds. £40m is really good as well.

Exciting we will be banking on our trio of starlets for his position.

Gutting we didn't sell Mustafi FFS.

Sicario

Rohit wrote:
Sicario wrote:
Iwobi simply not good enough, a wasteman.

Had to go.

Ofcourse, we are the only smart dudes in town.

Everton have reportedly paid [size=small][font=arial, sans-serif]£[/font][/size]40 Mn for a 23 year old wasteman.

Everton signed Walcott as well and he has done fuck all for them too.

We simply cannot refuse £40M for a player of Iwobi's standards.

I think too many ppl attached to him because he came through our youth rank.

lorddulaarsenal

Sicario

JazzG wrote:
Rohit wrote:
Zaha for Iwobi would have upset me. This is really frustrating. Hard working Arsenal boy with flair and upside that we have invested time in for the last few years, who doesn't complain and may be on the verge of a breakthrough year is sold without replacement. Don't like this at all. The clubs are ruthless with players too when it suits them. Wish him luck, really liked him.

Like I said earlier, Zaha was 23 when he left United. He barely touched the ball for them.

We as a club need to be a hell of a lot more ruthless, we can't just be sentimental all the time. Need to start acting like a big club and if players don't work out, when a good offer comes in move them on. We are getting £40m for him so our investment in him has paid off. I agree ideally he would have made it here but a few flashes here or there isn't good enough. If he proves us wrong fair enough but as long as we reinvest the money wisely I don't see a problem. We've got some great youngsters coming through so this is their chance as well to step up now.

Well said. Arsenal are a business, not a charity. Emery clearly doesnt rate him and feels Nelson is worth keeping around instead, which is fair enough imo.

Rohit

Claudius wrote:
JazzG wrote:
We as a club need to be a hell of a lot more ruthless, we can't just be sentimental all the time. Need to start acting like a big club and if players don't work out, when a good offer comes in move them on. We are getting £40m for him so our investment in him has paid off. I agree ideally he would have made it here but a few flashes here or there isn't good enough. If he proves us wrong fair enough but as long as we reinvest the money wisely I don't see a problem. We've got some great youngsters coming through so this is their chance as well to step up now.

While I am sad to see Iwobi go, I can support this view. You need to prune the tree. Iwobi has had over 120 games in an Arsenal jersey, so sufficient time to state a case. He has been a good player but not a great player. If our ambition is to get back to competing with City and Pool, then we should by all means sell the good players and reinvest in great players like Pepe at each position as much as possible. And do this as ruthlessly as possible, while maintaining a balance of stars, grafters and kids throughout the team

I could easily get behind that grudgingly if we had replaced Iwobi. At the start of the window we needed a quality wide player to supplement our options because Mkhitaryan and Ozil weren't playing like stars nor were they grafters. We have added Pepe for Iwobi, not sure I am on board with that.

The kids aren't ready in my opinion. We needed a player like Iwobi on the bench, not a frustrating has been like Mkhitaryan.

Gazza M

40m is great business, but the context of the deal is frustrating. We could've really used him as a 2nd unit leader like welbeck was last at times last season

Feels like he's an economic blood sacrifice because we couldn't foist mkhitaryan, mustafi, or ozil onto other clubs, which was the ideal plan. They're not long for this world though - the club is swinging the axe swiftly these days

Meatwad

the most expensive sale of an arsenal academy player right?

Shady

Walcott at 23 had shown more than Iwobi has now. £40mil is a great price, it's the timing that's off. We now habe no real depth in attack and unless Nelson surprises us, it will come back to haunt us.

Shady

Meatwad wrote:
the most expensive sale of an arsenal academy player right?

I think it's the most expensive sale of any Arsenal player ever.

GooneriC

Not happy selling Iwobi if we did not get Zaha. Maybe we tell him sit tight and move for him in Jan with Ozil possibly going to MLS?

KingslandBarge

Shady wrote:
Meatwad wrote:
the most expensive sale of an arsenal academy player right?

I think it's the most expensive sale of any Arsenal player ever.

Chamberlain?

Clrnc

I don't think its great business. Its 35m + add ons to 40m. He is 23 and improving, he should easily have been 40m rising to 50m kind of deal as Everton is desperate near the window in this inflated market.

I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we sold him and brought like Everton/Zaha in or Coutinho on loan at the very least. I don't like Auba on the wings most of the time and that means the only other LW we have is Nelson which is a huge gamble. The club obviously have more money so we didn't need to sell. It has put a real dampener on what was actually an excellent window.

Oh well, lets move on and look forward to sunday.

Jed

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:
Can't believe people are angry we sold Iwobi. He's one of our most lambasted players. Make up your minds. £40m is really good as well.

Exciting we will be banking on our trio of starlets for his position.

Gutting we didn't sell Mustafi FFS.

Still got time to sell Mustafi abroad.

Jed

Clrnc wrote:
I don't think its great business. Its 35m + add ons to 40m. He is 23 and improving, he should easily have been 40m rising to 50m kind of deal as Everton is desperate near the window in this inflated market.

I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we sold him and brought like Everton/Zaha in or Coutinho on loan at the very least. I don't like Auba on the wings most of the time and that means the only other LW we have is Nelson which is a huge gamble. The club obviously have more money so we didn't need to sell. It has put a real dampener on what was actually an excellent window.

Oh well, lets move on and look forward to sunday.

2016/2017 - 3 goals
2017/2018 - 3 goals
2018/2019 - 3 goals

How much more did you expect to get for a winger with those stats?

Qwiss

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Maybe I'll grow my hair out.

Sicario

Clrnc wrote:
I don't think its great business. Its 35m + add ons to 40m. He is 23 and improving, he should easily have been 40m rising to 50m kind of deal as Everton is desperate near the window in this inflated market.

I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we sold him and brought like Everton/Zaha in or Coutinho on loan at the very least. I don't like Auba on the wings most of the time and that means the only other LW we have is Nelson which is a huge gamble. The club obviously have more money so we didn't need to sell. It has put a real dampener on what was actually an excellent window.

Oh well, lets move on and look forward to sunday.

Martinelli and Saka can play LW too. We still got ESR as well for the other wing.

Qwiss

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:
Can't believe people are angry we sold Iwobi. He's one of our most lambasted players. Make up your minds.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that the people who wanted to keep Iwobi are not the same as the people who lambasted him.

DKGooner

Who knows, as unlikely as it sounds, Coutinho on loan might still be a possibility.

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