Qwiss! wrote:Gazza M wrote:de ligt, de jong, griez to barca
jovic, hazard, mendy, possibly one of salah/pogba/eriksen to real
we should be ready to move on whatever quality players are shaken loose
Like who? Denis Suarez? I don't see a lot of Alexis Sanchez types being shaken loose this summer.
Agreed the quality of madrid/barca expendables won't be the likes of Ozil, Di Maria, Higuain etc.
That said the likes of Malcolm, Coutinho, Umititi, Gomes, Mariano, James could be available
Isco too.
I think I'd actually prefer James to Isco, could see James working well in our team.
James has a Mesut smell to me. Both quality, but I can see us in tears again.
Yeah, I am not too keen on James either.
He blows too hot and cold for my liking and even at Bayern never really stamped his authority.
Yeah after his Bayern stint I don't really want him anymore.
Is Isco any possible? Seems to have tailed off at Madrid again. Madrid have plenty of fringe players that will be a good fit for us, Vallejo / Odriozola / Vázquez / Ceballos / Theo Hernandez / Ødegaard
So have Barca as well to a lesser extent with Alena / Umtiti etc.
I wouldn't be shocked if they sacked Solksjaer and hired Harry Redknapp at this point.
The British core only worked with the '92 lot because they all came through together and had a strong bond with the club. And had great players around them on top of that. The moves they're making right now are just bizarre.
Thats just the Manc Norwegian dickhead Ole working his magic in the transfer market
Indeed
The last time Utd made such moves look how it turned out-
Paid 30m for Shaw who was given a 6 figure deal. It takes him 5 years at Utd to surpass his league games haul at Southampton (which he left at eighteen).
Now he's already signed an extension and a hike on his already extravagant wages barely giving 4-5 months of decent service in 5 years.
The other is Martial who had a great first season and then regressed under Mourinho.
Signed a massive 250k plus deal in the winter and done nothing of note since.
Mourinho left both out at times and fell out with them and once they somehow got back in the team they were in prime position to negotiate their new deals.
jones wrote:Thats just the Manc Norwegian dickhead Ole working his magic in the transfer market
All those rumours of Fergie guiding his young padawan. It's little wonder Pogba is off, that they've re-hired Mike Phelan, and are now trying to sign every middling British talent about. All just so laughable.
Banter club.
Bournemouth have completed the signing of Lloyd Kelly. Sky Sports News understands the fee is £13m.
Atletico Madrid are hopeful of replacing the outgoing Antoine Griezmann with Benfica wonderkid Joao Felix, who has been linked with a host of top European clubs, including Manchester United, Manchester City and Borussia Dortmund - report Marca.
Everton are very interested in signing Fulham striker Aleksandar Mitrovic this summer,Sky Sports News understands.
Chelsea could turn their search for a new striker towards Ajax's David Neres with Luka Jovic poised to sign for Real Madrid, according to PA Sport.
The kid doesn't mess about.
Speaking following accepting the Ligue 1 Player of the Year Award, Kylian Mbappé declared that he would be open to a new challenge.
"This is a very important moment for me. I am arriving at the second turning point in my career. I have discovered an enormous amount of things here. It is maybe the moment to have more responsibilities, maybe at PSG, with pleasure, or elsewhere for a new project. In any case thanks everyone!”
Speaking to reporters in the mixed zone afterwards, Mbappé added:
“I said what I had to say. When you are in such an occasion you can send messages, I think I have sent mine. If I speak more it will be too much and that is not the message I wish to send.”
Mbappe has shown this season that he's a much less likeable guy than I initially thought.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:Mbappe has shown this season that he's a much less likeable guy than I initially thought.
What top player is? I can't think of one that wasn't a dick at points in their careers
He's become one of the worst divers in Ligue 1. Can you say that about every top player?
I blame refs almost as much for players diving.
They give fouls and yellow cards like confetti outside the box then ignore the same fouls in the box.
Ricky1985 wrote:The kid doesn't mess about.
Speaking following accepting the Ligue 1 Player of the Year Award, Kylian Mbappé declared that he would be open to a new challenge.
"This is a very important moment for me. I am arriving at the second turning point in my career. I have discovered an enormous amount of things here. It is maybe the moment to have more responsibilities, maybe at PSG, with pleasure, or elsewhere for a new project. In any case thanks everyone!”
Speaking to reporters in the mixed zone afterwards, Mbappé added:
“I said what I had to say. When you are in such an occasion you can send messages, I think I have sent mine. If I speak more it will be too much and that is not the message I wish to send.”
Not surprising. After United, I suggested he might seek to leave.
The Spanish clubs will be losing their minds. Nobody’s returning Pogba’s calls now.
Claudius wrote:James has a Mesut smell to me. Both quality, but I can see us in tears again.
Emery doesn't know how to use a number 10 so James is a no no.
I would love Isco as i think his ball retention skills would come in useful for us.
The away legs at Napoli and Valencia showed how lacking we are in that department with Ozil the only guy who was able to retain the ball in the press.
welbeck and jenkinson for mbappe..
Emery definitely knows how to use a 10, he even has a pretty unique perspective on the role as seen during his time in Spain. I unfortunately agree with the idea that James is a bit Ozil-ish these days. We need a reliable, athletic, creative 10 with a Ramsey-ish type of profile, if any. We also just need a player who is hungry.
Coombs wrote:Emery definitely knows how to use a 10, he even has a pretty unique perspective on the role as seen during his time in Spain. I unfortunately agree with the idea that James is a bit Ozil-ish these days. We need a reliable, athletic, creative 10 with a Ramsey-ish type of profile, if any. We also just need a player who is hungry.
[font=Source Sans Pro]Unique perspective on the role is a great politician-style description of doesn't know how.[/font]
[font=Source Sans Pro]He wants a runner who presses and tracks back (not a number 10) in that position.[/font]
[font=Source Sans Pro]As you say, any number 10 in his team will have to play like Ramsey (not a number 10) to be effective.[/font]
Muswell Hill Gooner wrote:Coombs wrote:Emery definitely knows how to use a 10, he even has a pretty unique perspective on the role as seen during his time in Spain. I unfortunately agree with the idea that James is a bit Ozil-ish these days. We need a reliable, athletic, creative 10 with a Ramsey-ish type of profile, if any. We also just need a player who is hungry.
[font=Source Sans Pro]Unique perspective on the role is a great politician-style description of doesn't know how.[/font]
[font=Source Sans Pro]He wants a runner who presses and tracks back (not a number 10) in that position.[/font]
[font=Source Sans Pro]As you say, any number 10 in his team will have to play like Ramsey (not a number 10) to be effective.[/font]
Because that's the way a player in that position can be effective in the modern game, otherwise you play with two hard-running B2B players with a DM behind them, or 3 CBs.
There's no room for a player that doesn't work hard in any top team. It's hilarious how people will lambast and lament lack of workrate for years on end, luxury players, etc. and then when a coach comes in and demands workrate will go on to lambast and lament how he doesn't "know how to use" talent. It's starting to become impossible to read this nonsense anymore.
Then don't buy a number 10 like James to add to the wreckage of Ozil and Mkhi.
Better to play a Ramsey-type player or settle for Zaha, Sarr or Ziyech type player instead.
van de beek or ziyech would be good as a high pressing 10
Yeah. That’s what we should be doing. Get rid of these non-defending, non-scoring AMs we currently have. They’re hurting us.
can't defend, can't score, what are you good for.
Chip chop (TM) shots
And looking like a hunger games contestant.
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-pressing-for-milinkovic-savic-deal-reached-with-player
Juve in talks to sign Milinkovic Savic
Brandt to Dortmund for €25m and earning £135k a week. That's exactly the kind of deal we should've tried to make.
except he had no interest in leaving germany yet.
Lovely player. Would’ve been great Ozil replacement
Apparently, Real Madrid want £120m for Isco despite benching him. Maybe we can bid for his head
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/isco-transfer-two-premier-league-16179927
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Pulisic sold to a rich English club with more money than sense. Brandt and Hazard in. And a £10m profit.
That's "outsmarting the market." Take note Mr. Sanllehi.
Borussia Dortmund have also signed German international left back Nico Schulz from Hoffenheim.
https://www.bvb.de/ger/News/Uebersicht/Borussia-Dortmund-verpflichtet-Nico-Schulz
Superb business for Dortmund.
Wheeling and dealing has always been our weakness.
Brandt and Hazard in with Pulisic out is just criminal. Shows you that some clubs are awake and others are getting taken for a ride.
I feel like Dortmund are doing those logical things many people on here propose. Sell player X for that, buy those two instead. With Arsenal "it's not that easy in real life", but Dortmund do it time and time again.
Quincy Abeyie wrote:I feel like Dortmund are doing those logical things many people on here propose. Sell player X for that, buy those two instead. With Arsenal "it's not that easy in real life", but Dortmund do it time and time again.
Exactly, it really is not that difficult, Arsenal have made it seem impossible.
The key first step is, sell your players at top prices
ohboy!!! wrote:Quincy Abeyie wrote:I feel like Dortmund are doing those logical things many people on here propose. Sell player X for that, buy those two instead. With Arsenal "it's not that easy in real life", but Dortmund do it time and time again.
Exactly, it really is not that difficult, Arsenal have made it seem impossible.
The key first step is, sell your players at top prices
The first step is shift some of Xhaka, Ozil, Mustafi and Mkhitaryan. And then see the magic happen.
The first step is to identify talented players before it becomes obvious. That's the part Dortmund do so well. Pulisic might be overpriced but he's also a good player, and potentially a very good one.
We don't sell well, by and large, because we're trying to sell players that have proven to be unsuccessful (talent/coaching issue) in the very league where Dortmund take clubs to the cleaners.
Other Premier League clubs would pay big money if we put Bellerin (injury aside) or Guendouzi on the market. Because they are young, hugely talented and have proven they can play at the top level. We wouldn't get bumped in those cases.
You can't sell wastrels, or good prospects you've coached to play like wastrels, for big bucks. Even Premier League clubs aren't that stupid.
I see your point, but the fact remains if we had sold properly (Ramsey, Sanchez, Ozil, Oxlade, Walcott, Fabregas, Henry etc) we might have come out ahead.
We have been poor sellers for a long time, although the point about lack of talent is also true.
