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Circus circa 2020

Claudius

A bit of invention at left wing

arsedocmd

Peter crouch left mid?

arsedocmd

It's simply brilliant how they've dug up and made Hunter Biden and his business the main story all over-they present it with such concern in the straight news channel that is Fox- while the other side is Trump. It's really something else.

arsedocmd

uff

MuswellHillGooner

Clinton also said she thought Jill Stein, the Green Party’s 2016 presidential nominee, was a Russian asset: “Yeah, she’s a Russian asset – I mean, totally.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/hillary-clinton-hints-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-as-third-party-candidate

Klaus

And that Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed by Moscow. 😆 What is this McCarthyism?

jones

Muswell Hill Gooner wrote:
Clinton also said she thought Jill Stein, the Green Party’s 2016 presidential nominee, was a Russian asset: “Yeah, she’s a Russian asset – I mean, totally.

At this point you'd be forgiven for thinking Clinton is a Trump asset.

Also what about the embarrasing state of that Guardian article. The author/Clinton asset should go back to writing for her high school newspaper, certainly writes and looks that way.

Klaus

Is there any distinguishable difference between NBC and Fox News, aside from the technicality that they produce propaganda for different parties?

jones

https://www.reddit.com/r/bernieblindness/

Check the "variety" of sources there. NBC, Fox, NPR, NYT, WaPo etc pp American mass media is 100% garbage.

arsedocmd

What a circus

jones

Obama showing his true colours (as if anyone was surprised). I remember thinking in his early years he was a guy who genuinely wanted to fix his shithole country and just couldn't because of Republicans running the house and key positions. Not even the Change garbage but his speech at Al Azhar for instance

Now he wants to curb the Change (TM) before it even starts looking remotely likely, because the centrist horseshit peddled by Hillary worked so great last time. Instead of Change now you're looking at Chanegieg

Qwiss

Obama is a right winger, always was, he's admitted he's a Reaganite.

As for Hillary she's come out as a TERF this week. How can anyone stand these people?

Mirth

Qwiss! wrote:
Obama is a right winger, always was, he's admitted he's a Reaganite.

Link? Not questioning, just curious.

goon

It's was a little ironic coming from someone who's campaign slogan was 'change'. I've always defended Obama's lack of substance, I mean he could barely get Obama care throug, but I don't quite understand why he'd actively warn against "revolution" as he calls it. Aside from his own views, I'd say the evidence suggests that he is wrong, the poloarisation in America (and here in the UK), suggests to me that there's a decent appetite to move towards more radical ideas.

jones

They're not radical. The current status quo is radical, the alleged revolution are bog fucking standard social democratic ideas which have been the norm all over the West until Hayek and Friedmans seeds started growing in the 70s.

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
Obama is a right winger, always was, he's admitted he's a Reaganite.

As for Hillary she's come out as a TERF this week. How can anyone stand these people?

I never even heard of the term TERF. This is like when I learnt there are Ukrainian born Jewish Nazi groups in Israel

Hillary is not a feminist. She's a piece of shit who bar some posturing will immediately pull the ladder up behind her as soon as she's in power because her allies are male. I'm glad people are starting to realise her true nature by now wasn't that long ago that I got called out for calling her out.

goon

Maybe, but I'm talking about perception. The point is, I think it suits the likes of Sanders (and Trump) to frame their policies as being 'radical' and a significant shift away from the status quo regardless of whether or not that's the case. It's a tactic being utilised all across the globe.

Qwiss

goon wrote:
Maybe, but I'm talking about perception. The point is, I think it suits the likes of Sanders (and Trump) to frame their policies as being 'radical' and a significant shift away from the status quo regardless of whether or not that's the case. It's a tactic being utilised all across the globe.

I don't think it helps Sanders at all. I hear Americans who self describe as being left wing call Bernie crazy for his policies. It allows someone like Warren to come in and offer watered down versions of his policies and call herself reasonable. Jones is right, if we take a look at Bernies actual platform its not revolutionary at all by European standards. And even Europe has moved severely to the right over the last 30 years.

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