Not sure how the current state of affairs is doing Kroenke's investment any good.

Qwiss! wrote:

Gazza M wrote:

Wenger is the biggest value proposition for kroenkes investment.

Not really, not any more.

in stan's eyes he clearly is. he's the one who overruled people to give him another contract

we may have reached the point where the arsenal brand is in actual jeopardy, and stan starts to think about selling up

No doubt whatsoever that the brand is in jeopardy.

We are an absolute joke!!!

Haven't been this pissed off in a long time !!

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert wrote:

@lorddulaarsenal wrote:

Hope we see half empty stadiums moving forward

The club doesn't deserve our support

Absolutely. This is what we will see, too.

I doubt it

It's like Old Trafford on steroids. There will always be tourists and daytrippers to snap up tickets, even if every single season ticketholder and the entire waitlist boycotts the club. I suspect you'd really only see attendance suffer for FA Cup and League Cup matches.

As for Wenger, he's the highest paid manager in the world. The only people who think he's the best manager in the world are Kroenke and Wenger. We could easily do so much better.

Another question for the gang. You don't think if we mirrored Chelsea or Leicester's seasons and were in or near the relegation zone in the winter, that Wenger would be sacked?

I personally think he would (money talks), and rationally, that means the harder we tank, the better. That gives us more time to salvage the season once a new manager is brought in. I think if we lost 7-8 matches on the trot, that could do it.

I would be fine with losing a season to get rid of Wenger,but unfortunately that thieving fucking bastard Kroenke will still be here.

kamikaze wrote:

Another question for the gang. You don't think if we mirrored Chelsea or Leicester's seasons and were in or near the relegation zone in the winter, that Wenger would be sacked?

I think that's the one scenario where he might actually be sacked, yeah.

I'd rather not find out, because once we're down there we might not be able to avoid relegation. That would be a pretty huge nail in the coffin for the club.

kamikaze wrote:

As for Wenger, he's the highest paid manager in the world.

No he's not.

We've made TomasCR come out of hiding. That's how bad it's become!

TomasCR wrote:

Except we're never going to get anywehere close to a relegation zone in the winter. There is a lot of things wrong at the moment but those talks about losing 7 games on the trot and avoiding relegation is some serious exaggeration. And two away loses in the first three games plus "losing" the never effective Chamberlain doesn't really change that.

Pretty much.

Thomas CR talking like a man who benefitted from his sabattical.

I guess we'd all like to hear Wenger and the board explain themselves but that won't happen.

We'll get Gazadis saying he's convinced we can compete in every competition we're in

TomasCR wrote:

Except we're never going to get anywehere close to a relegation zone in the winter. There is a lot of things wrong at the moment but those talks about losing 7 games on the trot and avoiding relegation is some serious exaggeration.

Was Chelsea's squad that year relegation caliber? Did Leicester go from the best team in the country to the 17th best in a span of 4 months? Sounds crazy, but if everyone gives 80% instead of 95%, those types of results aren't implausible.

Like those teams, I'm talking about hypothetically losing those games on purpose. No one believes this team is now headed for relegation... [rolls eyes]

And remember, as much as we hate Gazidis, it's reported that he tried to sound out Zorc to join us as sporting director from Dortmund. We get Wenger out and perhaps that sort of transition becomes possible.

kamikaze wrote:

And remember, as much as we hate Gazidis, it's reported that he tried to sound out Zorc to join us as sporting director from Dortmund. We get Wenger out and perhaps that sort of transition becomes possible.

Ironically I have a little more time for Gazidis since he was on the side that apparently put more pressure on Wenger and also put forward the recommendation to have a DoF. Can't be easy being stuck between Wenger and Kroenke.

Whatever he's stance on Wenger he's responsible for plenty of our failings too. I no longer has time for his bullshit.

If it's true that Kroenke overruled him by siding with Wenger then his position as CEO is very much undermined.
I think it's more likely that getting a DOF was not his default position but something he had to consider with the season threatening to be a complete disaster.
Of course the real disaster was winning the FA Cup as it resulted in no real change.