I will be stoked with this.
Have been reading some compelling points as to why he is better suited for us than the likes of Aguero, Aubameyang & the likes.
Another good reason is that he's not Benzema or any other CF in their late 20s or early 30s,
let alone that at age 26 he's both entering his peak and has been a 1 club man to date in his career, meaning that if all goes well we could see him here for the full 5 years (or more because of his adaptability shown by his various roles to date).
Geez Lyon got a lot of penalties last season. He seems pretty good at tucking them away though - left, right, down the middle doesn't seem to faze him. From last season's goals there weren't a lot that he made himself, but then we haven't really had someone like that since Henry. And I suppose the Dutch bloke who came after him.
I think it's worth to mention he won a lot of those pens.
Ah thanks - Youtube doesn't tell you that obviously.
Yay, but also, meh.
Lacazette in, Sanchez out would not be progress. But at least we'll have one fresh goalscorer in the new season, and his numbers are prodigious.
i still have a lot of questions.
are we going to stick with 5 at the back?
if alexis leaves, then what? do we sign another "winger", another playmaker like ozil, or do we play with 2 strikers with ozil behind them?
if we don't stick with 5 ATB, why are we changing? we've been vulnerable defensively for the last decade.
if we sign lacazette, alexis leaves, and we sign mahrez, i dont see how that is an upgrade. lacazette is better than giroud/welbeck/walcott if we are going to play with a single striker and counterattack. but losing alexis offsets any gains we get from signing lacazette.
we better not be done. and i really hope we stick with the new formation.
To be fair everyone in the squad is shit at penalties, I'd welcome someone who puts them away. Henry scored plenty of penalties in his 30-goal season as well.
mdgoonah41 wrote:i still have a lot of questions.
are we going to stick with 5 at the back?
if alexis leaves, then what? do we sign another "winger", another playmaker like ozil, or do we play with 2 strikers with ozil behind them?
if we don't stick with 5 ATB, why are we changing? we've been vulnerable defensively for the last decade.
if we sign lacazette, alexis leaves, and we sign mahrez, i dont see how that is an upgrade. lacazette is better than giroud/welbeck/walcott if we are going to play with a single striker and counterattack. but losing alexis offsets any gains we get from signing lacazette.
we better not be done. and i really hope we stick with the new formation.
If Sanchez stays I don't think we need to add another attacker such as Mahrez.
Cech
Mustafi Koscielny Holding
Bellerin Ramsey Xhaka Kolasinac
Ozil Sanchez
Lacazette
That looks very strong. I'm keen to see Ox go and replaced by another winger (not necessarily Mahrez) but that's it.
Here's something to ponder,
Sanchez plays his best behind a roaming CF as seen for Chile and with Welbeck, more so than when he himself plays CF.
Lacazette is ideal to play this role and to also pose a genuine goal threat more than the likes of Giroud & Co.
The current 3421 places Sanchez in an ideal position to emulate his role for Chile as a roaming SS, rather than playing as a WF from the flank.
Until such time as Sanchez departs I fail to see what's not to get excited about this.
I agree with this. We could see in the cup final how Welbeck's movement and workrate were creating problems for defenders and creating space for Alexis and Ozil, and Ramsey, between the lines - he just is unbelievably shit at anything else. With Lacazette you get most of the same positives and he actually can score and finish as well. Having someone who can score penalties is a plus as well.
And that's what's so depressing about the thought of Sanchez leaving, right when we have bought the exact type of striker that would compliment him perfectly.
"Alex, t'es si génial!" 
Reckon the hilarious thing would be the chorus of silence if we were to put Welbeck in the shop window.
Plenty would be after him, he'd easily fetch as much as Giroud too.
goon wrote:Plenty would be after him, he'd easily fetch as much as Giroud too.
A fit Welbeck is an ideal utility forward & is likely to be part of the ENG WC squad more so than either Walcott or Ox, simply because he can play across the front line and IIRC before the latest injury he was top goal scorer for ENG in the WC Qual campaign.
We absolutely need another CM. Ideally someone who knows how to deal with pressing.
Anzac wrote:goon wrote:Plenty would be after him, he'd easily fetch as much as Giroud too.
A fit Welbeck is an ideal utility forward & is likely to be part of the ENG WC squad more so than either Walcott or Ox, simply because he can play across the front line and IIRC before the latest injury he was top goal scorer for ENG in the WC Qual campaign.
From the current active English footballers, he's only behind Rooney as the highest goalscorer for the England national team.
He's way better than Walcott.
Is Lacazette even that quick? Acceleration? Running in behind?
Maybe. Welbeck's four or five years younger than Giroud.
I still don't want to see him in an Arsenal shirt, his attributes, work rate, versatility, pace, have only ever stacked up for us in forum threads.
Liverpool and Utd fans seem to be worried about Arsenal signing Lacazette.
Shady wrote:Is Lacazette even that quick? Acceleration? Running in behind?
He doesn't look it.
Burnwinter wrote:Maybe. Welbeck's four or five years younger than Giroud.
I still don't want to see him in an Arsenal shirt, his attributes, work rate, versatility, pace, have only ever stacked up for us in forum threads.
repost.
Great link-up clip from 2005 vs us
He's quick enough to get in behind etc but lacks the bust of pace to beat players. Good enough for a goalscorer.
Ray wrote:Liverpool and Utd fans seem to be worried about Arsenal signing Lacazette.
Yeah I've noticed that, opposition fans and the media seem to think this is a much better deal than many Arsenal fans.
Yep they don't know why some Arsenal fans are moaning. I don't either TBH.
Yeah, seems like this signing has raised our profile a lot in the media and in general by football fans. Plenty of people raving about him. You can't be a bad striker if you scored 20+ goals in each of your last 3 seasons.
Welbeck and Giroud still have a role to play here, especially as Welbeck is very versatile. Need to find buyer for Theo desperately though. I think Welbeck still have the potential to hit good scoring rates here considering how prolific he is for England.
Qwiss! wrote:Yep they don't know why some Arsenal fans are moaning. I don't either TBH.
I can't speak for others but for me it's down to the simple fact that whenever I've watched him play I've never been impressed. But then I've said the same about Cavani and Aubameyang in the past after limited viewing. It's funny, I remember being really happy with the Chamakh signing despite the fact that he only scored just 10 in Ligue 1 the season before signing for us and it was simply because he looked ace when I watched him in the CL.
goon wrote:Qwiss! wrote:Yep they don't know why some Arsenal fans are moaning. I don't either TBH.
I can't speak for others but for me it's down to the simple fact that whenever I've watched him play I've never been impressed. But then I've said the same about Cavani and Aubameyang in the past after limited viewing. It's funny, I remember being really happy with the Chamakh signing despite the fact that he only scored just 10 in Ligue 1 the season before signing for us and it was simply because he looked ace when I watched him in the CL.
Don't feel bad, only means that you just aren't that immense at football stuff.
Qwiss! wrote:Yep they don't know why some Arsenal fans are moaning. I don't either TBH.
Overshadowed by concerns re Sanchez,
and dazzled by the notion of signing Mbappe.
I'm betting it would be more of the same reaction if we also signed the likes of Lemar / Mahrez / Martial
because they'd all be viewed v Sanchez / Mbappe as they play in the same area of the pitch.
I'd be more concerned if we lost Sanchez, didn't sign Mbappe and then didn't spend to balance the squad & team = job left undone.
Anzac wrote:Qwiss! wrote:Yep they don't know why some Arsenal fans are moaning. I don't either TBH.
Overshadowed by concerns re Sanchez,
and dazzled by the notion of signing Mbappe.
This is it in a nut-shell. Now, I challenge the folks on this forum to name more than 2 or 3 OL attackers and midfielders. That should give you an understanding of the context that he is performing in.
...context is that he's playing in the French league.
I'm ambivalent about this - I'm not swayed by dreams of Mbappe (I have doubts that he is worth it) but if Sanchez goes, then Lacazette alone will not be acceptable.
That's a weak argument and always has been. There is loads of evidence to suggest that strikers who score for weakers sides fail to replicate it at the top end when they're faced with deeper, tighter and more organised defenses, among other things. Your argument could also be turned on it's head if I asked you to name more than 5 centre backs from Ligue 1 to give you an understanding to the context that he's performing in.
Claudius wrote:Anzac wrote:Overshadowed by concerns re Sanchez,
and dazzled by the notion of signing Mbappe.This is it in a nut-shell. Now, I challenge the folks on this forum to name more than 2 or 3 OL attackers and midfielders. That should give you an understanding of the context that he is performing in.
OL are going to need to rebuild as much as Monaco or ourselves.
They've already lost their midfield with both Tolisso and Gonalons gone already.
We used to be linked to Fekir before he did his knee.
It's not like PL defenders are defensive juggernauts, especially since Ligue 1 has been heavily invested in, and progressed further than the English sides in the CL.
Give it a rest. The Ligue 1 top scorers list reads like a who's who of Premier League goal scoring flops.
Gomis
As opposed to Kane, Vardy and Lukaku.
La Liga must be a joke with Aspas up there on the list, and Bundesliga with Modeste, or Serie a with the top scorer being Dzeko.
The PL is physical, but the notion that it has better defenders/defences than most other leagues doesn't stand. Especially now with the teams conceding goals for fun in the CL.
Ligue 1 is very physical too. Probably more similar to the EPL than any other league.
The Premier League is a much better than Ligue 1 in every respect. This is a fact that is acknowledged by everyone except for some weirdo hipsters.
Ray wrote:As opposed to Kane, Vardy and Lukaku.
the notion that it has better defenders/defences than most other leagues doesn't stand.
No it doesn't, but the notion that it has better defenders than Ligue 1 does.
