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Ozil contract talks

Savz

Hope so. We need him and it would be a big boost for the entire club.

Gazza M

Fantastic news if true. Ozil staying on is crucial to the future of the club

Mirth

Could also mean that Wenger's staying as well. I doubt Ozil would sign on without any assurances from the manager.

goon

I'm convinced Wenger is staying unless we have a poor season.

Anyway, great news on Ozil if true. So important to keep the team together.

Cannon

They are saying 230k a week, number 10 jersey and promise of investment in squad. Hmmmm

Savz

Take it with a pinch of salt. I do believe he'll sign.

Mirth

New contract will take him up 2020, by which point he'll be 32!

Claudius

Cannon wrote:
They are saying 230k a week, number 10 jersey and promise of investment in squad. Hmmmm

that's a very good deal for Arsenal.
i wonder what say the most recent custodian of the number 10 jersey had in this. maybe it helped to have him hanging out in Bournemouth during this key negotiation period. it would be great to understand Jack's role and implications on future

goon

The number 10 thing sounds like BS to me, as does the promise of investment in the squad.

Rex

To me too. That's not at all my impression of how assigning numbers works at Arsenal.

Bold Tone

A player cannot dictate those terms to a club.

Qwiss

I can't imagine he made those "demands". He may have enquired about the number and asked for assurances re the squad.

Claudius

Bold Tone wrote:
A player cannot dictate those terms to a club.

Really? Why not? Happens all the time in the NFL and the NBA. Why couldn't it happen in a football team?
And you have to think about it as the team. Perhaps having the number 10 is worth a lot to him, and costs us nothing to give away, helping close an affordable deal with him. Even a promise of additional signings might cost us very little if e.g., we are already committed to spending 100m pounds a year each of the next few seasons. But it could be valuable to him to have that assurance. Negotiating across multiple dimensions like this makes it easier to conclude a deal

Bold Tone

I suppose you are right that asking for a number/assurances is different to demanding them as pre-conditions.
We could be the ones offering them as sweeteners to reduce the financial figure.

As for basketball there are only 16 players on the team with 5 players on the court so their influence is greater.
I cannot think of any NFL player with this type of power as they mostly receive toilet paper contracts.

BTW, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong as i do not pretend to be an expert on American sports.

Mirth

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if the number 10 thing is true. He may have enquired about it, like Xhaka did, but as far as I know the club would never strip another player of the number.

On the other hand, I totally believe that he sought assurances regarding further investment in the squad. van Persie and Henry both did the same in the past.

Klaus

Qwiss! wrote:
I can't imagine he made those "demands". He may have enquired about the number and asked for assurances re the squad.

Yep, that's obviously what happened. Wenger and Gazidis probably outlined their future vision for the team and made promises to Özil and his agent about bringing in a certain type of quality.

It's not written into his contract that he could walk if we don't sign Benzema or whoever though. That's not how these things work. Quality is highly subjective for one thing. Signings might misfire for another. Too many variables to take into account for such an agreement to work on anything but a highly theoretical level.

Qwiss

Mirth wrote:
Yeah, I'd be very surprised if the number 10 thing is true. He may have enquired about it, like Xhaka did, but as far as I know the club would never strip another player of the number.

Could be as simple as "if Jack doesn't come back I'd like his number".

Art

Now that he is No. 10 for Germany it could be a marketing thing for him, makes getting the number maybe financially important for his party.

Claudius

Art wrote:
Now that he is No. 10 for Germany it could be a marketing thing for him, makes getting the number maybe financially important for his party.

... without being financially disadvantageous to us. A nice way for us to not have to pay too much and for him to consolidate his brand.

Cannon

It may not be the reason he signed offcourse, but it definitely could have been one of the demands/requests. Ozil is on record saying he has asked the club for the number 10 jersey. Infact he gave a fairly lengthy response on this

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