I'm not sure you can really claim Allardyce knew what he was doing considering he was drink pints of wine. WTF! 😆

It's an attempt at sports journalism at least. More than you can say for 99% of the fanboys out there.

They are always pulling this fake sheik shit on managers.
Here's an idea. How about reporting on football tactics and other things that make the serious football fan salivate.

I think exposing the bad in football is a very good thing.

Yeah, I've little sympathy for the greedy fucker.

Some of you are mad about the reveals and think they shouldn't write about it? That sounds weird to me.

They don't like the entrapment aspect of it, which makes me a little uncomfortable too in fairness.

Claudius wrote:

This Allardyce sting is infuriating. Why do English papers feel a need to engage in entrapment to sully innocents? I hate it. What's the role of newspapers? To report the news or to create it?

The national team will never get anywhere as long as the media continue to undermine the manager and team. The media has created a long standing toxic situation and the team is constantly gripped by fear. They did it to Hoddle, effectively bullied Roy and Big Sam has naively succumbed to it. It's a sad state of affairs.

I don't even like big Sam but I'm absolutely livid right now.

They targeted Allardyce because it's well known behind the scenes that he's a regular participant in these shanigans. Google "Ravel Morrison agent Allardyce" if you want to scratch the surface.

I have very little sympathy for him, and while he's said little wrong, he's willfully gone past the norms of professional conduct by whoring himself out like a lobbyist.

It's not as if managers who play the "Big Sam way" are in short supply in the British Isles anyway, you could get Steve Bruce in and no one would hardly notice the change

They didn't target Sam, they went after ten plus managers and he was the one they got. That doesn't make it any better but it does highlight Sam'd nature and certainly his naivety.

Sting operations are part of the fabric of the media in this country and anyone in the public eye is fair game. Big Sam is not an isolation. They started this crap with Usmanov and he shut them down.

They did it to Fergie and his agent son too. That's why he boycotted the BBC for over 7 years.

General wrote:
Claudius wrote:

This Allardyce sting is infuriating. Why do English papers feel a need to engage in entrapment to sully innocents? I hate it. What's the role of newspapers? To report the news or to create it?

The national team will never get anywhere as long as the media continue to undermine the manager and team. The media has created a long standing toxic situation and the team is constantly gripped by fear. They did it to Hoddle, effectively bullied Roy and Big Sam has naively succumbed to it. It's a sad state of affairs.

I don't even like big Sam but I'm absolutely livid right now.

Totally agree that the media in this country needs to be cleaned up (and it'll be a matter of time before they go too far) but it doesn't detract from the story and Sam's rightly been sacked for it. On the whole, the only way this thing can be handled properly is if there's a full investigation across the board and those people that Sam's alluding to get what's coming to them.

But that'll never happen and Sam stepping down is just a token gesture.

They've already gone too far. Remember the phone hacking scandal and how they hacked into the phones of dead crime victims and checked their voice messages for clues giving their parents false hope that they were still alive? A few of them went to jail for it and I believe the fake sheikh is heading behind bars for concocting evidence.

This is not about exposing malpractices in football at all. The media will do anything to land a big story and they've achieved their aim here. England will never get anywhere and will continue to fail as long as they set the agenda. I can't remember the tournament where they set up base next to the England camp and completely distabilised the team with their intrusion.

Jack is probably regretting his move to Bournemouth.

Allardici has left (been sacked presumably)

Claudius wrote:

This Allardyce sting is infuriating. Why do English papers feel a need to engage in entrapment to sully innocents? I hate it. What's the role of newspapers? To report the news or to create it?

WTF? if he was innocent he would't be caught up in this. he's a corrupt shithead and deserved his fate. newspapers should be rooting out corruption.

No sympathy for fat Sam at all.

To me he sums up everything bad about old school management in England, backward thinking, boring football, and a corrupt, greedy and arrogant attitude to the wider football community.

Hardly surprising he's bent and pretty liberal with words when on the drink. When he was over here for West Ham's pre-season tour a couple of years ago he was out in town drunk and telling anyone who would listen what a bunch of cunts the West Ham board were.